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    DrewN92
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    Kidman

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    CateNicole
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    Ammonite has nothing to do with Carol. It doesn’t sound similar at all other than its about women in love.

    The age difference.

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    The thing is, Kate Winslet will have (many) more opportunities to win another Oscar than Kidman, only because later in her career she will get all these Dench-like parts in prestige films.

    I agree. Kate Winslet will eventually be a dame, and is one of the successors to Maggie, Judi, and Helen.

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    Kidman has accrued a lot of goodwill the past few years. This is bound to be rewarded at some point. In theory…

    Pantheon of acting: Uta / Elizabeth / Richard / Sandy (Virginia Woolf), Bibi / Liv (Persona), Sandrine (La Ceremonie), Brie (Short Term 12), Jodie (Silence of the Lambs), Jodie (Killing Eve), Nicole (The Others), Eva (Penny Dreadful), Timothée (CMBYN), Lupita (Us)

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    Winslet is the greatest actress of her generation. I mean Kidman is a good actress but Winslet is in an other league. It’s unbelievable that she has just one oscar.  She got 7 nominees for medium-Low and very low budget movies that were never in consideration in the main categories at the oscars (except for titanic). She always gives stunning performance even in awful and bad movies such as “The Reader”, “Holy Smoke”, “Wonder Wheel”. She should have won at least an oscar for supporting actress for one between “Sense and Sensibility”and “Steve Jobs and she should have won also her second oscar in leading role for one between “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”, “Revolutionary Road” and “Titanic”. She was incredible in Heavenly Creatures and in Wonder Wheel and in both occasions she didn’t even get a nomination. She is way overdue. I hope she will win her second leader one as soon as possible but it will never happen because she doesn’t seem to collaborate with big directors or taking part in oscar bait movies.

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    Winslet is the greatest actress of her generation.

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    Yes Cate Blanchett is a fantastic actress but you can’t top Winslet acting in Revolutionary Road,  Little Children and Heavenly Creatures. Even in Titanic, Wonder Wheel and Eternal Sunshine she was hard to top. Anyway Blanchett is surely a worthy runner up. A great actress without doubs. “Elizabeth” and “I’m not here” her best performances.

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    Renee Zellweger just won a second Oscar, so, this could easily happen for them. I’ll choose Nicole Kidman since she enters the conversation at some point almost every year.

    Meanwhile I don’t think I’ve seen Kate Winslet in a film since Steve Jobs. But again, I hadn’t seen Renee Zellweger in a film since who knows when and here we are. A 2 time Oscar winner out of nowhere.

    Zellweger’s season was unexpectedly uninspired for the category. Situations where your competitors have a lack of enthusiasm from voters is a rare benefit. 2019 has already been compared to 1994.

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    And what about Cotillard winning her second one before Kidman and Winslet? Do you think does she have any chance to win for Annette?

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    Renee Zellweger winning a 2nd Oscar 16 years after her first Oscar and after she took a 6 year hiatus from acting was so unexpected. She’s clearly very loved in in the industry, and the character she played was so beloved, Judy Garland.

    In terms of Winslet or Kidman, I’m leaning towards Winslet simply because she’s had more nominations. The last time Kidman won was 17 years ago.

    Other actors with long gaps between Oscar wins:

    Katharine Hepburn – 33 years between 1st and 2nd Oscars
    Meryl Streep – 29 years between 2nd and 3rd Oscars
    Frances McDormand – 21 years
    Daniel Day-Lewis – 18 years between 1st and 2nd Oscars
    Ingrid Bergman – 18 years between 2nd and 3rd Oscars
    Marlon Brando – 18 years

    Kidman and Winslet both have 1 Lead Actress Oscar.
    My gut is saying though that it’s unlikely that either of them will win a second Oscar, just because there are so many legends who have only won one, like Helen Mirren or Audrey Hepburn. However, if they find the right Oscar baity role that is also a Best Picture contender like Three Billboards and Frances McDormand, it could be a winner.

    History tells us that with the exception of Meryl Streep for The Iron Lady (2011) and Ingrid Bergman for Anastasia (1956), every single woman or man who won a second Lead Acting Oscar won it for a movie that was a Best Picture nominee or winner. The last three women to get 2 Lead Actress Oscars other than Streep were Frances McDormand for Three Billboards, which was probably runner-up for Best Picture, Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby, which won Best Picture, and Jodie Foster for The Silence of the Lambs, which swept the big 5 categories including Best Picture. Swank’s and Foster’s first Oscars were for movies that were not Best Picture nominees, but were very Oscar bait roles. I think if the movies were reversed in time, it would be less likely that they would win their second Lead Actress Oscars.

    Also, Jack Nicholson, Ingrid Bergman, Maggie Smith, Gene Hackman, and Helen Hayes are the only actors to win a Supporting Acting Oscar after winning a Lead Acting Oscar. Even Al Pacino didn’t win a Supporting Actor Oscar this year after being nominated for the first time in 27 years.

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    And what about Cotillard winning her second one before Kidman and Winslet? Do you think does she have any chance to win for Annette?

    No I don’t see Cotillard winning for “Annette”. Might be a bit too indie/arty for the Academy. And I don’t see her winning a second Oscar frankly, it feels like she’s been a bit forgotten by both the French film industry and Hollywood.

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    @m844 It’s true what you said but Winslet has been very overdue for too long. She gives stunning performances since Heveanly Creatures (1994) for which she didn’t even get a nomination.  She could have won an oscar for Sense and Sensibility and also one for a performance between Titanic,  Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Revolutionary Road and Little Children. I mean two normal actresses such as Zellweger and Swank have two oscars. Winslet is in an other league she can’t end up her career with one oscar only. I hope Academy will understand that.

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    Zellweger only won because she was perceived overdue for a Lead win and many voters forgot she won already for Supporting.

    But she’s nowhere near considered as one of the great actresses of her generation, nor she’s considered at the same level of Blanchett, Winslet, Adams, Portman, or Theron.

    Her win already aged pretty badly after a few weeks.

    Still can’t believe normal actresses like Zellweger and Swank have TWO Oscars.

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    Renee Zellweger winning a 2nd Oscar 16 years after her first Oscar and after she took a 6 year hiatus from acting was so unexpected. She’s clearly very loved in in the industry, and the character she played was so beloved, Judy Garland.

    It seems to me it was much more the character she played than her status in the industry. I’m very curious to see what she does next. Also curious to see if she will be back in the Oscar race at some point.

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    Both deserve this. Both have been kinda unlucky.

    Kidman had couple awful snubs (shoulda been 6-7 time nominee), and yes, she seems to have a lot of good will for her recent work, but it did not help her with Boy Erased, Destroyer, Bombshell and you do not win Oscar for an HBO miniseries.

    Winslet was largely absent in the last couple years and kind of lost her mojo, but Ammonite seems like the right movie for a big return. I just worry she might have to answer uncomfortable questions about playing a queer person and this will ruin her chances (like she had to answer uncomfortable questions about Woody Allen). And let’s face it, she’s not as well spoken as Blanchett is.

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