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    This is apparently the first time ever. GG, SAG, Critic’s Circle, BAFTA.

    Do you think this will become the norm? Are voters so caught up in predicting Oscars or are these four performances really just that loved?

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    Coincidence? One was set to do that (Oldman), two were expected to deviate from the regional critics awards (Janney and Rockwell) and I don’t know about McDormand.

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    Actress was definitely split. Actor was the only one set in stone, the general consensus i got was that Chalamet was only gonna win the globe and the rest was gonna go to Oldman.

    Pretty sure its gonna go to the globes voters heads that THEY decide the oscar winners and they are gonna feel godlike. Oscars might throw a bitch pls and give us a shock but i dont think its this year.

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    Because people are boring.

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    PJ Edwards
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    People have no taste

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    I thought at least the Actress category would be interesting but nope. It’s gotten stale but maybe that’s because I stan for no one this season. Either way, it doesn’t bother me that much because McDormand is great in 3B.

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    I think GGs shaped this year’s race. The CCs were after them and obviously affected them, and then ofc the SAG had no one else to go with, but the one with the more buzz meaning the person who won both CCs and GGs. Come on, I knew from last year this time that Oldman was winning best actor with Chalamet or not. Janney won cuz they owed her a GG regardless of whether they wanted to predict the race or not. They went with Rockwell, cause they’ve never liked subtle supp performances, and also McDormand whom they owed a GG to as well, but the latter 2 were obv affected by the 3B sweep.

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    Makuta Teridax
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    Oldman is because Career + Trump hatred has made liberals nostalgic for a “real leader” like Churchill. I don’t have as much to say on this one except that he hasn’t won before, the movie and performance itself are decent enough, and none of the other nominees have rallied the same kind of consensus because Darkest Hour is such a safe classic Oscar bait biopic it makes it harder to dislike it. The movie existed to win Oldman and Oscar and it will do exactly that. There is a sense that his closest competition Chalamet is too young and can easily win in the future for another great performance. DDL would have been a more serious threat considering how his movie over-performed with the Oscars, if he didn’t already have three while Oldman has zero.

    McDormand is seen as an actor’s actor not in it for the fame and celebrity, she gives a powerful voice for women in this MeToo climate, personifies the female rage of the times we live in, and gives the most subtle and complex performance of the nominees with the most emotional range. Her telling off that priest, her talking to that deer, even the scene where Woody Harrelson’s character questions her about the assault on the dentist and she can’t talk normally. About every scene in the film is a classic “Oscar scene.” Many of the films haters even will concede McDormand’s performance was amazing.

    Rockell because he has worked with so many people in so many movies in the industry and has such an impressive arc that had a lesser actor delivered it, the entire movie might have failed. The emotional believability and layers of Rockwell’s performance is why he is winning. Also, he has done well-received work for years in films like Matchstick Men, Seven Psychopaths, and my personal favorite Moon. Unlike his fellow nominee Willem Dafoe, who has also given many great and nuanced performances and worked with a ton of people, BUT didn’t have a very layered script or complex arc in The Florida Project, Rockwell had both career + performance merit on his side.

    Janney because she gives one of the most wicked and mesmerizing villain performances of the past few years, right up there with the terrifying yet believable likes of Simmons in Whiplash and to a lesser extent Fassbender in 12 Years a Slave. With Janney’s closest competition Metcalf, people have to bring up Scream 2 a lot to explain why she should win for Lady Bird, because in the Gerwig film she really doesn’t do anything that transformative or extraordinary, for sure nothing that tons of actors couldn’t have done just as good if not better. Metcalf washes the dishes, underestimates her daughters potential, but she ultimately comes off as understated to a fault, not due to her acting, but likely due to there not being enough material to work with. Janney’s scene in the restaurant talking to her own daughter was like a tidal wave of contempt, bitterness, and raw rage. It truly sealed her the Oscar, and deservedly so.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    It’s a classic critics vs. industry debate and deciding which one is “correct” or not: the ones who decide things first and build consensus, or the last one that awards winners for all posterity. No easy answer for that, and maybe this is an odd year with the Olympics with everyone in a different voting pattern and rushing to build consensus. It might all change with the new influx of diverse voters who are voting later than usual this year. Who knows? I personally don’t see this as a new normal at all.

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    This is apparently the first time ever. GG, SAG, Critic’s Circle, BAFTA.

    Well, since it has never happened before like this, it makes a certain milestone. So I don’t think it’ll  become the norm. It seems industry made up its minds that these performances this year are awards worthy and rolled with it.

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    Voters are sheep.

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    I say it the nicest possible way… People are fucking stupid and have sheep mentality. They cannot think for themselves and by making Oscar predictions they feel oh so fucking special like they have any influence on Academy. Look we have the same winners like Oscars, we’re just like them. No you aren’t you bunch of starfucking losers. Academy members are the laziest of them all. They see this or that won so we must vote for them. Because why bother with watching any screeners? Who the fuck has time for that? Those fuckers should be made to watch the nominees during screenings and vote after that. Actors watching acting nominees. One category per day. You don’t have time for that? So do not fucking vote! Sound guys watching sound nominees. Etc, etc. Results would be so fucking different. But because no one is checking if they actually watched all the nominees you have sheep voting everywhere. And to think there was a time BAFTA had one of the most inspiring choices of them all… now they’re Academy’s whore with no self-respect. And trust me if the biggest losers of them all aka BFCA had ceremony before Globes we would have Metcalf, Dafoe and either Hawkins or Ronan as the winners. But you know, those pathetic low-lives want to be so right they just had to have it after GGs.

    One for all. All for one.

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    @sasha “And trust me if the biggest losers of them all aka BFCA had ceremony before Globes we would have Metcalf, Dafoe and either Hawkins or Ronan as the winners.” Disagree with you on this one Sash. Janney would have won the Oscar regardless due to all the elements of her performance being so impressive and specific in how she played them. McDormand and Rockwell would clearly be winning since their movie is such a strong BP frontrunner that swept SAG. Given The Shape of Water’s failure to get even a SAG nod, it is clearly that group wasn’t as fond of that films actors as the Oscars were. Even then, American Hustle got 1 more acting nod than TSOW and didn’t win any of them. As for Oldman, he’s checking off all the boxes. British person portraying a real-life British legend? Check? Is the actor overdue? Check? Is the performance a truly transformative one? Yes, and I don’t believe simply due to all that makeup. He isn’t playing someone with a disability, but he didn’t need to. His performance feels all the more commendable given he was giving it in the shadow of John Lithgow’s Emmy-winning work as Winston Churchill. To give a performance that memorable that people wouldn’t roll their eyes and instantly negatively compare his Churchill to Lithgow’s was no easy feat. All 4 acting winners would be winning the Oscars regardless of BFCA, just like Get Out will likely be losing Original Screenplay regardless of its win from the BFCA, and more likely how The Shape of Water will lose Best Picture at the Oscars regardless of its win from the BFCA.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Actress was definitely split. Actor was the only one set in stone, the general consensus i got was that Chalamet was only gonna win the globe and the rest was gonna go to Oldman.

    Pretty sure its gonna go to the globes voters heads that THEY decide the oscar winners and they are gonna feel godlike. Oscars might throw a bitch pls and give us a shock but i dont think its this year.

    I think the first part of what you’re saying was only ever a Gold Derby consensus, where people get carried away and try and anoint frontrunners that actually aren’t frontrunners (for example Liam Neeson was predicted for months to win Best Supporting last year and ended up being nowhere near the conversation). It happens every year.

    This year, groups just want to honour the same 4 performances and (rightly or wrongly) consider those 4 to be the best.

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    @sasha “And trust me if the biggest losers of them all aka BFCA had ceremony before Globes we would have Metcalf, Dafoe and either Hawkins or Ronan as the winners.” Disagree with you on this one Sash. Janney would have won the Oscar regardless due to all the elements of her performance being so impressive and specific in how she played them. McDormand and Rockwell would clearly be winning since their movie is such a strong BP frontrunner that swept SAG. Given The Shape of Water’s failure to get even a SAG nod, it is clearly that group wasn’t as fond of that films actors as the Oscars were. Even then, American Hustle got 1 more acting nod than TSOW and didn’t win any of them. As for Oldman, he’s checking off all the boxes. British person portraying a real-life British legend? Check? Is the actor overdue? Check? Is the performance a truly transformative one? Yes, and I don’t believe simply due to all that makeup. He isn’t playing someone with a disability, but he didn’t need to. His performance feels all the more commendable given he was giving it in the shadow of John Lithgow’s Emmy-winning work as Winston Churchill. To give a performance that memorable that people wouldn’t roll their eyes and instantly negatively compare his Churchill to Lithgow’s was no easy feat. All 4 acting winners would be winning the Oscars regardless of BFCA, just like Get Out will likely be losing Original Screenplay regardless of its win from the BFCA, and more likely how The Shape of Water will lose Best Picture at the Oscars regardless of its win from the BFCA.

    No, she means the BFCA would not have the exact same winners as the GGs. They tried doing their shit first before everyone cause they wanted to have influence. That didn’t work, so they decided to be even more fucking stupid and have the ceremony after the GGs just so they wouldn’t look wrong. They’re all about looking “right” about their winners. If they were before, I guarantee you Metcalf and Dafoe would’ve easily won their categories. But nope, they went for ham cause the GGs set that shit up.

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