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Why is "Best Actress" so hard for women of Color?

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    I just wanted to have this discussion. I think it is a great topic. I know the obvious answer is film roles, but there have been many great roles for women of color as well. It just seems like the is no hope of another actress of Color winning Best Actress. Halle was great in Monster’s Ball, but it feels like she was a safe choice. Halle is a mixed race Black woman. Every year, there are great performances by actresses of color (Latina, Black, Asian etc..) but none are even considered for a win. Viola was the closest an actress of color came to winning but no one besides Berry has won. There have been multiple winners of color in the other categories, but Best Actress seems like a lost cause for women of color. What do you think?

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    nosliwer999
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    isnt the Academy still a majority of white old people? I know it’s getting better with the numbers for POC but it still has a loooong way to go, no?

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    Hollywood makes it impenetrable for nonwhite female talent to compete with their white counterparts. Roles written for women are age, race, and body type specific. Hollywood commissions scripts for men that primarily read neutral. Hence Denzel Washington and George Clooney can be up for the same character without changing a word of dialogue or character description.

    We have a ways away before any of this changes if it ever does. However, it does not feel impossible for another nonwhite actress to breakthrough as a winner but I feel like beauty politics will play a role as it did with Berry.

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    But how often have there been roles by women of color that made you go “Wow that’s the best performance of the year”? Halle was definitely not the best that year (it was a weak year for the lead actress category anyway).

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    There aren’t enough high profile leading roles for women of colour. Some have been deserving though like Gugu Mbatha Raw in Belle (wasn’t even nominated), Wallis in Beasts of the Southern Wild, Angela Basset for What’s love got to do with it, etc. This year alone we have Amandla Stenberg in The Hate U Give and maybe Yelitza Aparicio since her movie is beloved

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    Prejudice is still rampant in the industry as a whole and the Oscars reflect that. Women of colour don’t get a lot of juicy leading roles and those who do are underrepresented in the awards circuit.

    Having said that, progress is happening. We’re at a point where black women are practically guaranteed nods – and often win – in Supporting, which wasn’t the case a few years ago, and there are more and more films starring black women who aren’t Viola Davis.

    Next year, I expect at least Cynthia Erivo (Harriet), Lupita Nyong’o (Us) and Davis (I Almost Forgot About You) to be in the conversation, with Erivo and possibly Nyong’o having a real shot at winning.

    We’re far from an ideal situation but it’s not a lost cause either.

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    It feels like there will never be another actress of color to win. Imagine an Asian actress pulling off what Gaga or Glenn did, she would barely be considered for a nod. (I love both of these performances by the way)

    That’s why I hate when White actresses say “There should be more roles for women.” Really???

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    I can’t believe that aside from Berry, only three WOC came more or less close to winning (Goldberg, Bassett and Davis, with Davis probably coming the closest). This is legit sickening how women of color are constantly overlooked while Hollywood stays rewarding some of these pretty white girls for mediocre performances. Ugh

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    I think we’ve come far from the drought of not giving poc meaty substantial roles.

    It’s disappointing that Viola and Yalitza are missing out which just comes down the fact that this year is extremely competitive.

    I’m still waiting for an Asian women to finally break into the Oscar race.

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    it’s more to do with the fact that women of color aren’t often given worthy roles than anything else

    This is not true. This year alone Viola Davis and Amandla Stenberg gave better performances than some of the frontrunners in the Lead Actress race (to me Stenberg gave the best performance) it is just that they are not campaigned. And the people who are supposed to give these obscure contenders an upper hand -i.e. critics- are way too busy predicting the Oscars rather than having worthy nominees.

    I mean Elsie Fisher’s mediocrity is getting more praise than Stenberg’s incredible turn the problem isn’t just the lack of roles or the worthiness of performances it is much bigger than those.

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    I am also still waiting for asian women to receive work that goes beyond stereotypes, archetypes and tokenism. Hopefully the success of Crazy Rich Asians propels this narrative although I still believe we have a long way to go unfortunately.

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    But how often have there been roles by women of color that made you go “Wow that’s the best performance of the year”?

    All the time.

    American cinema is not the only cinema, people.

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    Antiblackness.

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    They don’t make a lot film with african americans in leading roles. That’s why Black Panther was such a big deal and such a cultural phenomenon. Apparently, there is a Harriet Tubman film coming out next year. That sounds tough to beat on paper.

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    I am too excited to see what Lupita will do with “Us.”

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