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    Very good video.

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    M: The Original
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    Women of color gave the meaty roles though nowadays. Aparicio should be the front runner in my personal opinion.

    Meaty roles on a consistent basis. One role wonders are plentiful for nonwhite actresses.

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    I also think that it’s not just the fact that there aren’t enough diverse roles gives to women of color, but I also think it has to do with those producing said movies and how the bias of having a mostly white production/casting crew would have on casting in films and television. It’s not just the fact that they’re aren’t given the roles, but also the fact that there aren’t enough people who have the forethought to even consider them.

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    isnt the Academy still a majority of white old people? I know it’s getting better with the numbers for POC but it still has a loooong way to go, no?

    I hate this premise (above) that White people generically vote for White people and Black people will generically vote for Black people (or any other group). People are endorsing and worse yet normalizing racial supremacism when they assert this, hope you know.. I don’t know anyone who actually does this. Nobody. Why do so many people talk like this??

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    Because Hollywood white washes everything- Viola Davis said it best when she said that the range of roles available to white women is not the same as the range available to black women. Pretty much every black actress that has won an Oscar has won for a role where the discussion of race relations played a role or for stereotypical black roles. It”s not as if those roles aren”t great roles in there own right- I”m gay and I would not refuse a gay role although I wouldn’t want to be pigeonholed into it although there is an infinite amount of ways to type cast someone which don”t even include race or any kind of minority. Overall Hollywood needs to do better at giving minorities and people of different weights, body types, and pretty much everything that doesn”t fit the cookie cutter mold of what an actor is thought to be roles that do not conform so rigidly to stereotypes. It probably will never happen in the way that it should but they should make an effort.

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    I can’t believe GONG LI the chinese Meryl, never pulled an Aparicio-Riva-Sandino with her dozens of amazing performances in Asian movies.

    The main problem was the lack of campaign and hype.
    Its sad how Hollywood never picked up Gong Li and Zhang ZiYi after MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA. Both got nominations and were hot as hell in 2005. Li got a small part in Miami Vice remake and was ridiculous, Ziyi´s career went nowhere.

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    I can’t believe GONG LI the chinese Meryl, never pulled an Aparicio-Riva-Sandino with her dozens of amazing performances in Asian movies.

    Not familiar with all of Li’s work but her performance in Raise the Red Lantern and Farewell My Concubine is some of finest acting I’ve ever seen

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    I can’t believe GONG LI the chinese Meryl, never pulled an Aparicio-Riva-Sandino with her dozens of amazing performances in Asian movies. The main problem was the lack of campaign and hype. Its sad how Hollywood never picked up Gong Li and Zhang ZiYi after MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA. Both got nominations and were hot as hell in 2005. Li got a small part in Miami Vice remake and was ridiculous, Ziyi´s career went nowhere.

    It’s because the Academy & Hollywood are blatantly racist against Asians in film. This will be a long post lmao. Thank you in advance for ignoring my Ted Talk. Some points and examples as of 2019:

    1). Just this year,
    Crazy Rich Asians did not even picking up a single Oscar nomination. Even in the tech categories. Zilch. And this is for a Hollywood film. This is just sad given the film’s cultural impact, and given the growing significance of Asian-Americans in the US Demographic.

    2). Language
    Not once has an Asian spoken language performance been nominated for an Oscar, in any of the acting categories.
    I counted 45 nominated performances which have had significant foreign language or non-English elements. The overwhelming majority of these were actually for European languages, particularly French & Italian. Some were for American sign languages, which is technically non-English.
    It has only been once that an Asian language performance was nominated and it was non-spoken, lmao. (Rinko Kikuchi in Babel performing with Japanese sign language).
    This is a statistic where technicality wins out over representation in my opinion. It’s great Kikuchi was nominated, but its in a North American film and it’s a non-spoken, supporting role. This is a small representation of the much wider and comprehensive Asian cinema & language.

    3). Ethnicity
    Only a single actor and actress have been credited as ethnic Asians nominated in Best Actor and Best Actress:
    Ben Kingsley won for Gandhi and was nominated again for HoSaF in Best Actor. Note that Kingsley is Eurasian (half-Indian half-European), he won for an English language performance and he is of English nationality.
    The other “Asian” is Merle Oberon, who was nominated once, 100 years ago. Note that she was nominated for an English language performance (her nationality is UK), and Oberon is basically white with a sliver of Sri Lankan ethnicity in her DNA. lmao.
    As we can see, technicality wins out over true representation in the leading categories. Kingsley represents a small amount of Asians in cinema as a Eurasian and UK citizen primarily doing English language films. No I will NOT count Merle Oberon. Aside from technicalities, no Asians have actually been nominated for Best Actress. 
    There have been 8 ethnically Asian actors and actresses nominated in the supporting categories (I didn’t bother counting 5% ethnicity for this statistic).

    4) Basically,
    There have been little recognition for Asians, and zero recognition for East Asians in Best Actor and Best Actress, regardless of whether it’s in an English or in a foreign language performance. There has been some recognition for Asians in the supporting categories.
    Meanwhile over dozens of Europeans have received Oscar nominations and wins, including for foreign language performances. Around 40 European language performances have been nominated, 7 of which even won.
    There is clearly a bias even though Asian cinema is some of the most significant in the world.
    More recognition should be made for Asians in cinema, particularly in the lead Oscar categories when Europeans get nominated plenty of times. Because no, it is not only European films that exist in foreign language cinema.

    5) Just an Appendix:
    If I counted correctly 45 of Oscar-nominated performances were done primarily in foreign or non-English languages. 40 of these were for European languages (mostly French and Italian, and even Yiddish TWICE).
    2 were for American Sign language.
    1 was for Japanese sign language.
    1 was for a performance with elements of Mixtec (American aboriginal language)
    1 was a performance with Somali (African language); and
    1 was a performance done in Lakota (American aboriginal language).
    ***These latter three were Aparicio in Roma, Abdi in Captain Philipps and Greene for Dances with Wolves, respectively. Greene is a Canadian actor with some aboriginal ancestry.
    Zero were for spoken Asian languages, meanwhile:

    – Asia hosts 60% of the world’s population and represents a wide spectrum of cultures and people. There are 4.3 billion people speaking nearly 2,197 living languages across Asia.
    – In 2011, India alone is responsible for a whopping 1,255 films. In fact India and Bollywood has been the largest national film industry this decade in terms of the number of films produced (yes, more than Hollywood – but not really surprising given the population difference).
    – In 2014, the gross box office in China for domestic films was US$2.65 billion, which is 55% of its total gross box office. China is predicted to have the largest market in the world in 2017 or 2018 for total gross box office.
    – South Korea has seen the largest growth in number of feature films out of the leading film markets, increasing production by 81% during the 2007-14 period.

    6) Considerations:
    – Obviously there are other factors at play here. The most obvious is that maybe Asian films are rarely being screened in L.A, and thus not eligible for Oscar contention.
    – Another consideration is obviously the USA would resonate with European films more than with Asian films given the majority of the population’s cultural and ethnic heritage.
    – But the statistics are still persuasive. In over 90 years of Academy Awards, they have never thought to nominate an Asian language performance in an Asian film. Yet they are perfectly okay with nominating the most obscure European actress in an obscure foreign language film every now and then. It’s just bias if you ask me. No shade, just tea, all facts.

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    Why does it matter what the skin color or the winner is? If you only want someone to win because they’re black, odds are that it is you that is the racist one

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    Why does it matter what the skin color or the winner is? If you only want someone to win because they’re black, odds are that it is you that is the racist one

    you must be white to say such a thing

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    Why does it matter what the skin color or the winner is? If you only want someone to win because they’re black, odds are that it is you that is the racist one

    When it’s been over 90 years of Oscars and the composition of actors recognised are significantly out of proportion with reality and the national population, it’s a problem. Representation means opportunity. Under-representation often leads to promotion of stereotypes and lack of visibility in society. Stop perpetuating your culturally and racially biased power structures.

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    Why does it matter what the skin color or the winner is? If you only want someone to win because they’re black, odds are that it is you that is the racist one

    Silencio.

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    #OscarsSoWhite: From Anna Mae Wong to Awkwafina

    Another outstanding video from Be Kind Rewind, one of the most insightful takes I’ve seen on this topic. A must watch

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    I can’t believe that aside from Berry, only three WOC came more or less close to winning (Goldberg, Bassett and Davis, with Davis probably coming the closest). This is legit sickening how women of color are constantly overlooked while Hollywood stays rewarding some of these pretty white girls for mediocre performances. Ugh

    I wonder how close Gabourey Sidibe came to winning a Lead Actress Oscar for “Precious”. In my opinion, she was so much better than Sandra Bullock, who I do love but just didn’t think she was Oscar worthy in “The Blind Side”. I guess Hollywood was more interested in giving their box office draw an award over the better performance in 2009.

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    I wonder how close Gabourey Sidibe came to winning a Lead Actress Oscar for “Precious”. In my opinion, she was so much better than Sandra Bullock, who I do love but just didn’t think she was Oscar worthy in “The Blind Side”. I guess Hollywood was more interested in giving their box office draw an award over the better performance in 2009.

    Yes, She gave a really good performance. I also believe Sidibe might have been close to winning  like Davis was. Albeit even closer imo considering Davis was going up against Meryl and Weinstein.

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