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    I do understand that Daniel Kaluuya is in a strong BP-contender and I do find his awards run incredibly impressive, and even deserving to one point, but how on earth can it be that James McAvoy did not get anything for a much better and much more challenging performance in “Split”? James’s film is not as well-liked as Daniel’s, but I think that McAvoy’s turn has received tour-de-force reviews, and it seems incredibly unfair for me that one of the best male performances of the year will not be nominated because it was not in a socially relevant film. Both of them should compete for the Oscar, not just Kaluuya.

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    Foolio
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    I haven’t seen Split so I have no opinion of the film or the performances in it, but the movie wasn’t generally nearly as well-received as Get Out. Kaluuya gives a one-of-a-kind performance in a modern classic, and since there are only five slots, the quality of the film can and should make all the difference.

    An actor giving a great performance in a well-received film that also captures the current zeitgeist is obviously more likely to be nominated than an actor giving a great performance in a film that doesn’t register with audiences, critics and/or voters.

    That’s par for the course for Oscars and the reason why great performances by Jennifer Lawrence, Denzel Washington, Judi Dench, Jake Gyllenhaal and many others are sitting this one out.

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    I do understand that Daniel Kaluuya is in a strong BP-contender and I do find his awards run incredibly impressive, and even deserving to one point, but how on earth can it be that James McAvoy did not get anything for a much better and much more challenging performance in “Split”? James’s film is not as well-liked as Daniel’s, but I think that McAvoy’s turn has received tour-de-force reviews, and it seems incredibly unfair for me that one of the best male performances of the year will not be nominated because it was not in a socially relevant film. Both of them should compete for the Oscar, not just Kaluuya.

    I find it odd that you are comparing the two since they are so completely different. I say throw out Gary Oldman, even Timothee Chalamet (just to drive his stans crazy), and obviously James Franco before you consider throwing Kaluuya out of the Best Actor line-up. It just so happens that I am voting for James Mcavoy “Split” for the Goldderby TV Awards and have him ranked 1st.

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    If Franco is out (I mean if he is REALLY out) we need someone for the fifth spot. It can be of course Denzel or Tom Hanks, but although both have the name-recognition, neither have the passion. So if not them, we have Gyllenhaal in an picture no one cared about. He is also trying too hard and that can be a huge turn down for some. Jeremy Renner and Jamie Bell can also happen out of the blue. And then we have James McAvoy in a well-received film (maybe not acclaimed) who can absolutely fit in the “passion pick” category. I do think he was close for the SAG nomination, and he can definitely surprise. It’s a baity performance and one of the most raved one of the year. As for now I’m going with Denzel, Hanks of Jake for the final spot, but I’m really rooting for Mr. McAvoy! He is long overdue for his first career nomination!

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    @Teridax read the last sentence of my post and my topic title do. I prefer McAvoy to Kaluuya, but I made it clear I want BOTH in over only just Kaluuya. 🙂 I’m fine with Kaluuya’s nomination, but I want McAvoy to happen as well, you know simply for his performance alone. 🙂

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    @Teridax read the last sentence of my post and my topic title do. I prefer McAvoy to Kaluuya, but I made it clear I want BOTH in over only just Kaluuya. ???? I’m fine with Kaluuya’s nomination, but I want McAvoy to happen as well, you know simply for his performance alone. ????

    I read that, it just felt odd to put them together? I would love them to be nominees like you, but I don’t see why they are any kind of package deal.

    Hugh Jackman also NEEDS to be nominated, but I know he will be snubbed. Further proof that the Oscars and all these awards are so deeply biased against the superhero genre that even Heath Ledger probably would have gotten little to nothing for his role in The Dark Knight had he not died and had the “posthumous” narrative. Robert Pattinson, Jake Gyllenhaal, I hate how those worthy performances will be left out while mostly solid but not spectacular performances will make the cut with the Academy. 🙁

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    Kaluuya is not deserving, neither is his movie but Get Out is a timely film and Hollywood feels guilty so here they are. If they were going for the performances instead of the narrative we’d see Jake Gyllenhaal and James McAvoy way before the likes of Kaluuya, Hanks, Oldman, Washington, and Carell.

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    @Teridax read the last sentence of my post and my topic title do. I prefer McAvoy to Kaluuya, but I made it clear I want BOTH in over only just Kaluuya. ???? I’m fine with Kaluuya’s nomination, but I want McAvoy to happen as well, you know simply for his performance alone. ????

    I read that, it just felt odd to put them together? I would love them to be nominees like you, but I don’t see why they are any kind of package deal. Hugh Jackman also NEEDS to be nominated, but I know he will be snubbed. Further proof that the Oscars and all these awards are so deeply biased against the superhero genre that even Heath Ledger probably would have gotten little to nothing for his role in The Dark Knight had he not died and had the “posthumous” narrative. Robert Pattinson, Jake Gyllenhaal, I hate how those worthy performances will be left out while mostly solid but not spectacular performances will make the cut with the Academy. ????

    They are the ones from the horror genre. That’s why I put them on the same page 🙂

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    @veradoyle Ah, thank you for explaining! I still think Get Out only becomes a horror film in its 3rd act, most of the time it feels more like suspense, kind of like what Hitchcock used to be so great at. I also love what Jordan Peele said about the movie when it was ridiculously classified as a “Comedy or Musical” by the Golden Globes, about Get Out being a “Documentary.” You seem nice, feel free to keep commenting with that positive vibe, this website sure as heck needs it. 🙂

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    I thought this thread would advocate for more of the supporting cast of “Get Out” for awards consideration, like Catherine Keener and Allison Williams. But it’s for James McAvoy instead. Hmmmm. Odd comparison to make.

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    I thought this thread would advocate for more of the supporting cast of “Get Out” for awards consideration, like Catherine Keener and Allison Williams. But it’s for James McAvoy instead. Hmmmm. Odd comparison to make.

    Don’t forget SAG-snubbed Betty Gabriel and Lil Rel Howery! Well okay, the latter wasn’t quite Oscar-worthy but was still one of the most entertaining parts of the movie.

    Betty Gabriel is more Oscar-worthy in Get Out than Allison Janney is for her solid but one-note work in I, Tonya. Just my honest opinion. This is some genuinely incredible acting right here!

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    Imo, Betty Gabriel’s performance was better than Daniel Kaluuya’s.

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    Teridax
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    Imo, Betty Gabriel’s performance was better than Daniel Kaluuya’s.

    I think I like Kaluuya’s better because he had more range, but to be fair Gabriel left a huge impact with not a lot of screen time.

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    Have I just read James McAvoy’s name? My god, it’s the second best male performance of the year. I rewatched it couple days ago and sorry Chamalalet you’re not my #2 anymore. McAvoy pwns the potential line-up so much it’s not even funny. He rapes them all and leavea them bleeding on the floor that’s how motherfucking good he is.

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    Totally agree. Kaluuya definitively wasn’t even the best performance in Get Out. He was fine and conducted the film pretty well, but nothing in his performance was that great. I can’t understand why there are so much passion for him. The female cast was way better and deserved more recognition in my opinion.

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