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    I may be crazy but assuming it does well in the nominations, I feel like we might not be giving Mad Max enough credit. Yes, it is not at all the academy’s usual type of choice, but was Birdman really? A cynical, dark comedy with vague fantasy elements? I know, it had more going for it than Mad Max, it’s about actors, by a director theyve nominated before, etc. but when it first came out, did anyone really think that was the type of movie that was going to win Best Picture? I just think with the academy expanding it’s membership, they’ve been going for some more daring choices lately. I mean it seems like every year something is happening that hasn’t happened in decades (Waltz wins without SAG, Argo wins without director, Birdman wins without editing, etc.) And the people who love it, really REALLY love it, whereas I feel like no one outside of critics seem THAT excited about Spotlight, it’s just kind of stumbled into the frontrunner position because it has less things going against it than anything else.

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    Why would The Big Short win Best Picture? I don’t see the momentum behind it. And Adam Mckay is not winning Best Director, I also don’t see that happening. 

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    I may be crazy but assuming it does well in the nominations, I feel like we might not be giving Mad Max enough credit. Yes, it is not at all the academy’s usual type of choice, but was Birdman really? A cynical, dark comedy with vague fantasy elements? I know, it had more going for it than Mad Max, it’s about actors, by a director theyve nominated before, etc. but when it first came out, did anyone really think that was the type of movie that was going to win Best Picture? I just think with the academy expanding it’s membership, they’ve been going for some more daring choices lately. I mean it seems like every year something is happening that hasn’t happened in decades (Waltz wins without SAG, Argo wins without director, Birdman wins without editing, etc.) And the people who love it, really REALLY love it, whereas I feel like no one outside of critics seem THAT excited about Spotlight, it’s just kind of stumbled into the frontrunner position because it has less things going against it than anything else.

    Exactly what I was thinking. Spotlight seems to be this year’s Boyhood.  

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    Why would The Big Short win Best Picture? I don’t see the momentum behind it.

    It is surging late.

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    I remain unconvinced that Mad Max Fury Road is going to be as popular with the academy as it has been with critics. I have already taken George Miller out of my predictions and replaced him with Adam McKay for The Big Short – it’s a film that would appeal a great deal to a majority of the director’s branch, who are mavericks. Miller is not beloved; Ridley Scott is. Steven Spielberg is, but I believe that Bridge Of Spies has run out of steam and won’t do all that well either. MMFR will do well with the technical nominations but I think there is a good chance it will miss BP and Director. It has had what I call the “steamroller effect”, which is when critics go crazy for a film or a performer and start giving it all sorts of (in this case undeserved) awards. I think there’s a great deal fo wishful thinking going on with MMFR by it’s fans.

    I think Room is more well liked than any one recognizes.

    I am a progressive independent and that explains why I love movies such as Spotlight, The Big Short, Trumbo, The Danish Girl, Carol, and Room. The MOR movies, which I like but I don’t love quite as much, would be Brooklyn, Creed, Bridge Of Spies, The Martian, Steve Jobs, and Inside Out. Then there are films that have right-wing leanings, such as Mad Max Fury Road, The Revenant, and The Hateful Eight, which leave me cold – hating the first two, and feeling the third squandered a good premise with two much hate speech and violence. We are living in a time of Bernie Sanders, not Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton – regardless of what the corporate media lies to us, and that is why I believe the BP winner will be from the first group of films. The Big Short is more aligned with where we are right now, but it’s late December release date works against it.    
    Release dates matter. While it is true that The Artist was released in December, it had Oscar-buzz for months before then. But most Oscar winners are released between September-November. (The Hurt Locker was released in 2008, not 2009, but not in L.A., which is the only reason it was eligible to win for 2009. That was a rare exception. The Silence Of The Lambs pulled off the feat of being released in January and winning the Oscar nevertheless, but that was way back for 1991). I think Boyhood would have won last year if it had been released in late October or November, despite it’s lack of guild nominations. Momentum got lost and Birdman was released later. This is why I think Spotlight is better positioned than The Big Short for winning this year. Both films are great and I would be happy with either of them winning. In fact, I’m pretty sure there are going to only be one or two films I don’t like nominated for BP this year and I don’t believe either of them can win.

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    if spotlight loses every writing award it will not be winning best picture

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    what could beat spotlight any of these the martian, the revenant, mad max fury road, the big short

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    Ok…now I’m confused.  Mad MAx and The Revenant are right wing??  What exactly are you smoking and where do I get some???

    You aren’t even analyzing anymore, Freeman.  You’re just pulling some sort of BS out of your ass that has no basis in reality.   If you honestly believe that Mad Max is missing out on the top nominations, you just aren’t paying attention because of your bias.  Mad Max has won Eight different critics prizes for Best Picture, and George Miller has won more best director prizes than any other director in the derby-16 in total.  Mad Max has been nominated for Best Pic and Director at both Critics Choice and the Golden Globes. 

    Try to come with something based in fact…don’t just pull random crap from your rear, like Mad Max is right-leaning, which may be one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever heard. 

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    Yeah Mad Max is that innovative, groundbreaking film that gets the passion votes. The Martian and Star Wars won’t be able to compete with it.

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    Also Freeman, what on earth do you mean by “Miller is not beloved, Scott is”?

    Ridley Scott couldn’t even win Director when his film won Best Picture and many other awards. He hasn’t been nominated since 2002.

    George Miller is actually an Oscar winner. Albeit for being the producer of Happy Feet, but he has other nominations (for writing).

    To say they love Scott and not Miller is ridiculous, because I don’t see where the evidence of that is. Ridley Scott is not making it in! Please stop with this narrative.

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    Mad Max Fury Road is not going to win the BP Oscar, period. I am absolutely ocnvinced there is an age divide over this film. Academy voters are older. What is innovative about htis piece of shit? I’m sorry but I am adamanat ont his subject – MMFR is a horrible terible despicable evil right-wing parable with not one good thing about it. I don’t get why anyone would think this is even a GOOD movie. I am usually tolerant of others opiinions but this movie makes me so mad! It’s a stupid vapid inisipid movie about a nihilistic apolcapytic world in which everyone chases each ohter intheir souped up vehicles and kill each other. Lives aren’t worth living anyway since there is no joy, no compassion, no love, no care in this world. They chase. They kill. War, war, war. This is why I call it a right-leaning movie, where endless war is a-o.k. This is truly one of my least favorite movies of all time! I only watched it the second time to try to understand why critics have gone ape-shit over it. I believe that our corporate media has hired right-wing critics or at least vapid stupid critics, and that is why they are lambasting cgreta films like The Danish Girl and over-praising junk like MMFR and TR. Be mad at me if you want, but this is my opinion about it. But mostly I am certain this piece of filth is NOT winning the Oscar for BP!

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    In case you never got to the end of the movie, the point was to overthrow the militaristic regime to create a more equal society. It’s about a dystopian future where the oceans have dried up (environmental factors?), females are treated as lessers and everyone is ruled over by a 1% that control a mighty military, the information and a key resource (water). The plot is them trying to escape and then returning to overthrow the 1%. How you get a right wing message when the topics covered are endangering the environment, gender and social equality I honestly don’t know.  It’s like saying ’12 Years a Slave’ is pro-slavery as the middle section shows all the benefits of having slaves. 

    However, I do think the criticism of it begin vapid will stop it from winning Best Picture. Someone who doesn’t like it can fairly describe it as a two hour car chase. It isn’t getting writing or acting nominations anywhere and they make up a large part of the academy. You need a film that pleases both the tech side and the more substantive side of the academy. That’s why I changed my prediction to ‘The Big Short’, it’s more visually interesting than Spotlight and has more substance than Mad Max.

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    Yeah, I haven’t seen a Best Picture winner with only two oscars in a long time, at least a BP winner should walk away with three, will the academy give it the Best Director Award?

    On the other hand, “Mad Max Fury Road” is frontrunner in at least 3 technical oscars, it could top nominations and George Miller is frontrunner for Best Director. I just want to see Mad Max to take the top prize just to see people like Freeman getting mad. I don’t see any other movie winning, maybe Room.

     

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    Ok…now I’m confused.  Mad MAx and The Revenant are right wing??  What exactly are you smoking and where do I get some???

    You aren’t even analyzing anymore, Freeman.  You’re just pulling some sort of BS out of your ass that has no basis in reality.   If you honestly believe that Mad Max is missing out on the top nominations, you just aren’t paying attention because of your bias.  Mad Max has won Eight different critics prizes for Best Picture, and George Miller has won more best director prizes than any other director in the derby-16 in total.  Mad Max has been nominated for Best Pic and Director at both Critics Choice and the Golden Globes. 

    Try to come with something based in fact…don’t just pull random crap from your rear, like Mad Max is right-leaning, which may be one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever heard. 

    Couldn’t agree more. Freeman is so bias, he now believes everyone that likes Mad Max Fury Road is a Republican LOL.  

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    Mad Max Fury Road is not going to win the BP Oscar, period. I am absolutely ocnvinced there is an age divide over this film. Academy voters are older. What is innovative about htis piece of shit? I’m sorry but I am adamanat ont his subject – MMFR is a horrible terible despicable evil right-wing parable with not one good thing about it. I don’t get why anyone would think this is even a GOOD movie. I am usually tolerant of others opiinions but this movie makes me so mad! It’s a stupid vapid inisipid movie about a nihilistic apolcapytic world in which everyone chases each ohter intheir souped up vehicles and kill each other. Lives aren’t worth living anyway since there is no joy, no compassion, no love, no care in this world. They chase. They kill. War, war, war. This is why I call it a right-leaning movie, where endless war is a-o.k. This is truly one of my least favorite movies of all time! I only watched it the second time to try to understand why critics have gone ape-shit over it. I believe that our corporate media has hired right-wing critics or at least vapid stupid critics, and that is why they are lambasting cgreta films like The Danish Girl and over-praising junk like MMFR and TR. Be mad at me if you want, but this is my opinion about it. But mostly I am certain this piece of filth is NOT winning the Oscar for BP!

    Nonsense. 

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