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    Globes as expected had a record low Nielsen rating. So SAG, BAFTA and Critic’s Choice’s audience will be extremely small.

    We might actually have an Oscars where people just vote without paying attention to who has won before or is “sweeping.”

    That would be sort of cool. All these precursor ceremonies have really devalued the Oscars. You can see it just by watching old ceremonies. In the eighties and before people were so excited and emotional in their speeches. Now they sometimes seem fatigued and just relieved that the long campaign is over.

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    They never have been influential. Over and over they pick one winner and oscar picks another. Lets go down the list: Borehood-Birdman, 1917-Parasite, La La Land-Moonlight, etc…The differences are even more stark this year. I think last time they agreed was Argo.

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    They never have been influential. Over and over they pick one winner and oscar picks another. Lets go down the list: Borehood-Birdman, 1917-Parasite, La La Land-Moonlight, etc…The differences are even more stark this year. I think last time they agreed was Argo.

    Not in the acting categories.

    FYC

    Best Actor: Mads Mikkelsen (Another Round)

    Best Actress: Carey Mulligan (Promising Young Woman)

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    This year is like no other… Wait til SAG and the other guilds to actually influence Oscar…. Globes and Critics Choice will only help films get seen this year…

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    Not anymore than the box offices. Promising Young Woman has the worst box office of all the movies in contention that have put out numbers.

    There are many valid arguments to make but that is the biggest lie.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Globes as expected had a record low Nielsen rating. So SAG, BAFTA and Critic’s Choice’s audience will be extremely small. We might actually have an Oscars where people just vote without paying attention to who has won before or is “sweeping.” 

    Even if voters don’t watch the televised awards shows, they are likely to read or see who the winners are in newspapers, or online.  I think voters will pay as much (or as little) attention to the results of the precursors as they have in the past, but the low Nielsen ratings may mean that the speeches winners give may have (perhaps marginally) less influence.

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    Not in the acting categories.

    In the early 2000s they weren’t so influential

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    Even if voters don’t watch the televised awards shows, they are likely to read or see who the winners are in newspapers, or online. I think voters will pay as much (or as little) attention to the results of the precursors as they have in the past, but the low Nielsen ratings may mean that the speeches winners give may have (perhaps marginally) less influence.

    That’s a great point. I noticed that last night with Jodie Foster. Her Oscar speeches were always pretty articulate and memorable. Last night she didn’t say much at all I guess due to the shock of winning and the format of the show. (Although come to think of it she did have a bad time with that Golden Globe Life Achievement award speech. So I guess she’s not always on point.)

    Trying to think now of people whose precursor speeches helped them move on to other awards. Glenn Close did well for The Wife. I thought that was enough to get her to the Oscar stage. I’ll always wonder what she’d have said there had she won.

    Then on the other side there was Anne Hathaway whose speeches seemed to lose her fans for some reason.

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    I didn’t know these awards are for the best speech, lol

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    I almost never paid attention to the speeches, many are boring

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    Regardless of the scandal, the Golden Globes are losing their relevance more and more each passing year.
    They are constantly mocked and not taken seriously even by the actors and filmmakers.

    This should be their last year, they should be abolished.

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    Why will the precursors not influence the Oscars this year? Is it because the unexpected contender won? The Globes has been the ones pioneering the Oscar winners for years now. I don’t see why that should change now. It’s an unusual year. Getting all time lowest ratings is expected.

    Andra Day should be winning Best Actress

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    There’s a good possibility that the precursors will have different winners for several key categories. That’s how it should be.

    The only locks are Zhao for Director and Boseman for Actor. I think Kaluuya is getting closer to lock status. Everything else is up in the air, and I love it!

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    Glenn Close did well for The Wife. I thought that was enough to get her to the Oscar stage. I’ll always wonder what she’d have said there had she won.

    Not to mention that her loss robbed of us of seeing her walk up the stage stairs with the long gold train of her outfit trailing behind her.

    FYC: Vanessa Kirby - Pieces of a Woman

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    Regardless of the scandal, the Golden Globes are losing their relevance more and more each passing year. They are constantly mocked and not taken seriously even by the actors and filmmakers. This should be their last year, they should be abolished.

    It’s a shame that they succumbed to the pressure. They have their own criteria for choosing members. Why should a private organization be told who to include among their membership all based on superficial reasons?

    FYC: Vanessa Kirby - Pieces of a Woman

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