September 14, 2014 at 11:46 am #161737
Would “Boyhood” be a top Oscar contender if it was “Girlhood”? Imagine the same film quality, just the gender flip.
I think we all know the answer to that question. 99% of the bloggers,
film critics, industry insiders et. al. who are passionately pushing “Boyhood” for Oscars
are men pressing a selfish, testosterone-fueled agenda …Or are they? Do you disagree?September 14, 2014 at 11:58 am #161739
O c’mon Tom. Dont get me started. Sheesh.September 14, 2014 at 12:01 pm #161740
O c’mon Tom. Dont get me started. Sheesh.
Aha, YES, pook: LET LOOOOOSE, pls. We gotta hear what you — one of our most prominent females here at guy-heavy Gold Derby — are thinking …September 14, 2014 at 12:17 pm #161741
Not A Chance!!!September 14, 2014 at 12:34 pm #161742
Not A Chance!!!
Why? Pls elaborate …September 14, 2014 at 12:38 pm #161743
There already is a Girlhood this year, and it looks SO good!
And, personally, I would have loved to have seen Boyhood approached with the perspective of a young latina growing up in Texas around the same time, but the experience is universal enough that the film could have just as easily been titled “Familyhood,” “Motherhood,” whatever — it was called 12 Years until last year’s BP winner came along (and I think it would have done just as well).September 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm #161744
I kinda sorta agree.
I think that the film would probably be the exact same if you replaced Mason with a girl. It would still be beloved by pretty much everybody and be an Oscar contender. However, I do agree with Tom on the idea that the Oscars seemingly love girls, not just little young ones, but young adult ones as well (I am reminded of the musical number of “We Saw Your Boobs” when Seth MacFarlane hosted the Oscars…). But yeah, Oscar has this weird girl complex.
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Certainly not. It would have skewed to a young female audience, as most other people would criticize it for having overly romantic undertones and a soppy storyline, and see it as little more than a young adult film. It would have not been as embraced, as the dynamic between mother and daughter would not have been as strong (this is assuming the gender roles of the parents don’t flip). It would’ve just been seen as a cute, quirky film with no Oscar hopes IMO. I don’t want to say Linklater doesn’t write women well (Celine in the Before Trilogy was superb), but I don’t know if it would have been as warm as it is now, as you can see it is very much reminiscent of Linklater’s own life.September 14, 2014 at 1:52 pm #161746
Haha will it be a top contender? God no. Sadly, it’ll be labeled as a romantic comedy and sent off to an arranged marraige with the VOD pile.
Although it’ll certainly have a more interesting lead character, with a more diverse experiences and less suburbia mayhem.September 14, 2014 at 1:56 pm #161747
I think it would still be a big conteder. Alot of the priase and love for the movie is the idea of how it was made. I think I alot of critics gave it 4/4 and 5/5 s because of the idea of it more than the movie as a whole.September 14, 2014 at 2:11 pm #161748
Since I consider women to be way more interesting and complex than men I would say yes. But who knows really. I would love to see another young female breathrough performance a la Adele Exarchopoulos last year. Ellar Coltrane was as fascinating to watch as a piece of firewood standing still in my garage.September 14, 2014 at 2:52 pm #161749
^If there was an Adele Exarchopolous calibre performance at the centre of girlhood, then it would be a cakewalk in best Actress instead of likely non-nominee Coltrane.
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Interesting question. I don’t know to be honest I personally think it would of been the same. It would have the same acclaim that Boyhood does.September 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm #161751
Specially if you’re telling me that we’re talking about the awful Samantha character being the one with the “Girlhood” story and the just as bad Lorelai Linklater would still be playing her. I can imagine half of the positive reviews flying away with the films Oscar chances if that would’ve happened.
Anyway, most of the acclaim would still be there if it were any other actress, the main thing about Boyhood (or Girlhood in that case) is the story of how it was made. I bet that if this were the exact same film/screenplay but with 3 different actors playing he central character and Patricia Arquette in wigs, nobody would care as much.
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