February 8, 2020 at 9:45 am #1203334922
I might do a few of these because I think it’s interesting to think about if a controversial/unpopular Best Picture winner from the five nominee/plurality vote era would have won on a preferential ballot. First up is Crash.
February 8, 2020 at 11:15 am #1203335022
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Unfortunately yes. Brokeback Mountain would’ve been just as disadvantaged on a preferential ballot with its leisurely pace and subject matter; you can bet those bigoted assholes in the Academy would’ve tanked it while putting Crash at #1.February 8, 2020 at 1:18 pm #1203335114
The question is what margin did Crash win by? And would the voters of Capote, Good Night, and Good Luck and Munich have preferred Brokeback Mountain over Crash by enough of a margin to overturn the result.
Gut feeling, it was very close and those voters probably would have gone more to Brokeback Mountain than Crash. So I think there is a decent chance the answer is no.February 8, 2020 at 1:41 pm #1203335138
Absolutely. It was less divisive and controversial than Brokeback (at the time). And nobody cared about the other nominees.
2005 in fact to me is the weakest year of the 21st Century.February 8, 2020 at 2:25 pm #1203335191
Unfortunately yes. Brokeback Mountain would’ve been just as disadvantaged on a preferential ballot with its leisurely pace and subject matter; you can bet those bigoted assholes in the Academy would’ve tanked it while putting Crash at #1.
Crash wouldn’t even have needed the most #1 votes. All it would’ve needed was to be placed above Brokeback on enough ballots of the other Best Picture nominees.February 8, 2020 at 7:31 pm #1203335701
If green book can win on a preferential ballot nearly anything canFebruary 8, 2020 at 11:41 pm #1203335888
Crash wouldn’t even have needed the most #1 votes. All it would’ve needed was to be placed above Brokeback on enough ballots of the other Best Picture nominees.
Basically this. It definitely doesn’t seem like a #1 movie, but it is the definition of a #2 and #3 kind of movie. It would’ve had broad support throughout.
So yes, it would have easily won on a preferential ballot.February 9, 2020 at 4:39 am #1203336077
I originally voted NO but then after rethinking it, I do think it could’ve happened.
I have to say the argument about BROKEBACK being 2 or 3 on the ballots of those who voted for the other three
films seems like a viable case.
I personally would’ve voted for GOODNIGHT AND GOOD LUCK and would’ve ranked BROKEBACK second or third (with CAPOTE).
I do feel like we might have seen a few different winners throughout the 90s and 00s had they used preferential then.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”February 9, 2020 at 7:31 am #1203336209
Definitely. I think Crash is one of those obvious best picture picks due to its subject matter and that it was set in LA, how it could not have won, really?February 9, 2020 at 9:30 am #1203336366
If it wasnt divisive then it would have got a best director nom.
The reason it didn’t get nominated for Director has nothing to do with the film itself. It was because Peter Farrelly is not a respected auteur director and we know how exclusive the directors branch can be with the snub of Ben Affleck being a prime example.
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