Would Crash have won on a preferential ballot?

[James Breheney Joined: Feb 15th, 2017 Topics: 11 Posts: 471 View Predictions]

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I might do a few of these because I think it’s interesting to think about if a controversial/unpopular Best Picture winner from the five nominee/plurality vote era would have won on a preferential ballot. First up is Crash.

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[Eddy Q Joined: Oct 13th, 2012 Topics: 23 Posts: 5076 View Predictions]

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Unfortunately yes. Brokeback Mountain would’ve been just as disadvantaged on a preferential ballot with its leisurely pace and subject matter; you can bet those bigoted assholes in the Academy would’ve tanked it while putting Crash at #1.

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[Sagand Joined: Jan 13th, 2013 Topics: 3 Posts: 494 View Predictions]

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The question is what margin did Crash win by? And would the voters of Capote, Good Night, and Good Luck and Munich have preferred Brokeback Mountain over Crash by enough of a margin to overturn the result.

Gut feeling, it was very close and those voters probably would have gone more to Brokeback Mountain than Crash. So I think there is a decent chance the answer is no.

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[Asgaroth Joined: Nov 1st, 2012 Topics: 13 Posts: 408 View Predictions]

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Absolutely. It was less divisive and controversial than Brokeback (at the time). And nobody cared about the other nominees.

2005 in fact to me is the weakest year of the 21st Century.

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[Gabe Guarin Joined: Feb 23rd, 2017 Topics: 40 Posts: 2441 View Predictions]

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Eddy Q wrote:

Unfortunately yes. Brokeback Mountain would’ve been just as disadvantaged on a preferential ballot with its leisurely pace and subject matter; you can bet those bigoted assholes in the Academy would’ve tanked it while putting Crash at #1.

Crash wouldn’t even have needed the most #1 votes. All it would’ve needed was to be placed above Brokeback on enough ballots  of the other Best Picture nominees.

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[JackO Joined: Jun 2nd, 2011 Topics: 13 Posts: 5889 View Predictions]

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If green book can win on a preferential ballot nearly anything can

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[James Breheney Joined: Feb 15th, 2017 Topics: 11 Posts: 471 View Predictions]

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JackO wrote:

If green book can win on a preferential ballot nearly anything can

Green Book wasn’t divisive in the industry. It was only film twitter that attacked it. The Academy and general audiences loved it.

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[JackO Joined: Jun 2nd, 2011 Topics: 13 Posts: 5889 View Predictions]

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James_Breheney wrote:

Green Book wasn’t divisive in the industry. It was only film twitter that attacked it. The Academy and general audiences loved it.

If it wasnt divisive then it would have got a best director nom.

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[Avi Christiaans Joined: May 21st, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 24 View Predictions]

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Gabe Guarin wrote:

Crash wouldn’t even have needed the most #1 votes. All it would’ve needed was to be placed above Brokeback on enough ballots of the other Best Picture nominees.

 

Basically this. It definitely doesn’t seem like a #1 movie, but it is the definition of a #2 and #3 kind of movie. It would’ve had broad support throughout.

So yes, it would have easily won on a preferential ballot.

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[ArtIsntEasy Joined: Dec 17th, 2011 Topics: 3 Posts: 1250 View Predictions]

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I originally voted NO but then after rethinking it, I do think it could’ve happened.

I have to say the argument about BROKEBACK being 2 or 3 on the ballots of those who voted for the other three
films seems like a viable case.

I personally would’ve voted for GOODNIGHT AND GOOD LUCK and would’ve ranked BROKEBACK second or third (with CAPOTE).

I do feel like we might have seen a few different winners throughout the 90s and 00s had they used preferential then.

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[Elazul Joined: Sep 2nd, 2017 Topics: 8 Posts: 1081 View Predictions]

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Definitely. I think Crash is one of those obvious best picture picks due to its subject matter and that it was set in LA, how it could not have won, really?

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[James Breheney Joined: Feb 15th, 2017 Topics: 11 Posts: 471 View Predictions]

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JackO wrote:

If it wasnt divisive then it would have got a best director nom.

The reason it didn’t get nominated for Director has nothing to do with the film itself. It was because Peter Farrelly is not a respected auteur director and we know how exclusive the directors branch can be with the snub of Ben Affleck being a prime example.

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