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    I loved Moonlight and I loved the cast. I was thrilled it won Best Picture. I been thinking for a year that Moonlight winning Best Picture was a makeup not only for Brokeback but also for no African American actors being nominated the year before. After today I am not so sure. I still don’t think there is a lot of love or room for the Gay community when it comes to Hollywood.

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    I loved And I loved the cast. I been thinking for a year that Moonlight winning Best Picture was a makeup not only for Brokeback but also for no African American actors being nominated the year before. After today I am not so sure I still don’t think there is a lot of love or room for the Gay community when it comes to Hollywood.

    Call Me By Your Name got 4 major nominations, so I don’t think homophobia is as big a deal in Hollywood as you seem to think it is. Although to be fair, the snub of In a Heartbeat is concerning, though I’ll be kind and say that bigotry was not the reason for its snub.

    The black cast felt like such an integral part of Moonlight’s individual identity as a film that I don’t feel your question can be answered, at least not by me.

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    I do understand that a white cast makes Moonlight a totally different movie but I was trying to make a point just really a little heartbroken for the lack of love for CMBYN. it was a beautiful film as was Moonlight. Luca not getting in for Director and not at least one actor getting in for Supporting is crazy.

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    Moonlight would have been a totally different movie if the cast was white.

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    Thomas Eagan
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    Why does Greta get in for Director over Luca ? The films are so closely matched as far as I am concerned when it comes to direction. So they choose the woman over the Gay man ? Just saying !!

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    And why are there no openly gay screen actors in Hollywood. What are the odds ? Zach Quinto is Spock and he is really lucky he has made a lot of money in that one role. Not saying Robert Pattison is Gay but he would not be working if he was and was out. Kristin Stewart is out and is working????

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    I don’t think that Moonlight’s win had anything to do with “making up for Brokeback Mountain.” It was entirely a response to the OscarsSoWhite controversy, and it also benefitted from La La Land facing “backlash” and Manchester By The Sea being overshadowed. The film is considered a “black film” much more than it’s considered a “gay film,” which makes it all the more disappointing when you see people dismiss CMBYN as “we did the gay thing last year.” Also, Moonlight straight up couldn’t exist with a white cast. The entire story is about being black.

    As for treatment of gay stories in film, I think that the Oscars are still caught up in the “bury your gays” mindset. Going off the list of performances of LGBTQ characters that have earned Oscar recognition, they certainly seem to value queer deaths more than they value queer lives. Part of this probably stems from the fact that the Oscars prefer drama, and AIDS and suicide and hate crimes make for great drama… but it also reflects decades of queer characters being stereotyped as tragic figures.

    But recent nominations for films like The Kids Are All Right, Carol, Moonlight, and Call Me By Your Name suggest that they’re moving towards more positive (and less fatal) depictions of queer characters. Of course, Kids and Carol went home empty-handed, and Moonlight was an anomaly…

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    I agree gay cinema has come a long way but TheRedBoy is right. CMBYN is just a simple beautiful love story. No one dies or gets sick or bullied. Just a emotional depiction of love and heartbreak. CMBYN is beautifully acted, directed and filmed. It deserved more than 4 nominations. My bet is that it goes home empty handed. I will predict this right now. Armie Hammer get an acting nomination next year. Mark my words

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    I agree gay cinema has come a long way but TheRedBoy is right. CMBYN is just a simple beautiful love story. No one dies or gets sick or bullied. Just a emotional depiction of love and heartbreak. CMBYN is beautifully acted, directed and filmed. It deserved more than 4 nominations. My bet is that it goes home empty handed.

    It pretty much can’t lose Adapted Screenplay. Logan, Molly’s Game, and The Disaster Artist have no other nominations (meaning they’re basically spot fillers), and Mudbound didn’t have enough support for a Best Picture nomination.

    And, I mean, most gay movies only win for screenplay and/or acting (and they usually only win for acting if the character dies).

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    I say Mudbound would be the one who could be picked to send home CMBYN empty handed. Does Get Out really win screenplay ?

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    Thomas Eagan
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    In a Heartbeat was awesome !!

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    No it wouldn’t have

    luckily James Ivory is basically overdue and is 90 years old and might be his last chance

    if he was a middle aged straight white male, he’s losing this to Dee Rees

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