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  • DC95
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    Neither Lana nor Lorde was nominated for BNA. I suspect Lorde would have been formidable competition for Macklemore & Ryan Lewis had they not snubbed her right out.

    She beat Macklemore for Song of the Year, so logically, she likely would have won Best New Artist had she been nominated.

    PoweR
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    Those solo AC male acts do not fare well in BNA. Sam Smith was just an undeniable situation.

    Oz
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    Billie Eilish has the biggest album of the year. There is no way she’s going to lose to some random one-hit wonder just because he has a hit piano ballad.

    Capaldi is closer to the past BNA winners. Alessia, Sam Smith, Adele, Bon Iver, etc. The Grammy’s love ballads and they definitely have a thing for Brits. No one is saying Billie is losing, I’m just saying Capaldi is definitely in the running. That award is not locked.

    Oz
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    Plus, having an AOTY nom doesn’t even help that much. HER still lost to Dua Lipa despite having more nominations, an AOTY nod, and being more talented.

    Oz
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    Weird tangent, but from what I can gather, the 2014 BNA line-up (Ed Sheeran, Macklemore, James Blake, Kacey Musgraves, Kendrick Lamar) has been the only one this century in which all of the nominees have won at least one award. Shows how competitive it might’ve been.

    DC95
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    For every Sam Smith, you have several other Ed Sheerans, John Mayers, (lost), Shawn Mendeses, James Arthurs, Charlie Puths, Andy Grammers, Passengers, etc. (not even nominated).

    It doesn’t matter that Lewis Capaldi is vaguely similar to Sam Smith or whatever balladeers have won this category before. They don’t default to giving Best New Artist to the same types of artists; just this decade alone, the award has gone to an extremely diverse group of artists ranging in genre from singer-songwriter pop to dance-pop to hip-hop to country to even jazz.

    Billie Eilish is this year what Cardi B would have been last year had she been eligible: an undeniable frontrunner and all but certain to be the winner. No, Lewis Capaldi is not a threat to her. The fact that this is even a debate is ridiculous.

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    Billie will probably win BNA. Lewis could win SoTY if nominated.

     

    Oz
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    For every Sam Smith, you have several other Ed Sheerans, John Mayers, (lost), Shawn Mendeses, James Arthurs, Charlie Puths, Andy Grammers, Passengers, etc. (not even nominated).

    It doesn’t matter that Lewis Capaldi is vaguely similar to Sam Smith or whatever balladeers have won this category before. They don’t default to giving Best New Artist to the same types of artists; just this decade alone, the award has gone to an extremely diverse group of artists ranging in genre from singer-songwriter pop to dance-pop to hip-hop to country to even jazz.

    Billie Eilish is this year what Cardi B would have been last year had she been eligible: an undeniable frontrunner and all but certain to be the winner. No, Lewis Capaldi is not a threat to her. The fact that this is even a debate is ridiculous.

    What the fuck are these comparisons? How are Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, or really anyone outside of Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran close to Capaldi?

    Plus, he has the biggest hit and album of the year in the U.K. The UK voting block definitely has a lot of influence as a very big amount of winners have been Brits or Canadians.

    Billie Eilish can definitely lose; it’s not unprecedented.

    DC95
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    How are Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, or really anyone outside of Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran close to Capaldi?

    They make more sense than you comparing Billie to Avril Lavigne and Fiona Apple…

    Billie Eilish can definitely lose; it’s not unprecedented.

    It’s also not realistic.

    Oz
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    It’s also not realistic.

    Esperanza Spalding winning over anyone else was also not realistic.

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    The difference being that there was not a clear frontrunner that year.

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    Weird tangent, but from what I can gather, the 2014 BNA line-up (Ed Sheeran, Macklemore, James Blake, Kacey Musgraves, Kendrick Lamar) has been the only one this century in which all of the nominees have won at least one award. Shows how competitive it might’ve been.

    All of the 2005 nominees (Los Lonely Boys, Maroon 5, Joss Stone, Kanye West, and Gretchen Wilson) are Grammy winners as well. All of them except Joss Stone won that same year, too.

    But yes, those are the only two groups of nominees that have all won this century.

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    Plus, having an AOTY nom doesn’t even help that much. HER still lost to Dua Lipa despite having more nominations, an AOTY nod, and being more talented.

    That fact ain’t helping your case. Dua is popular and won, Billie looks almost the same situation.

    Oz
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    That fact ain’t helping your case. Dua is popular and won, Billie looks almost the same situation.

    Dua won because she’s basic. Billie is too interesting.

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    BNA is Billie’s or Lizzo’s to win, as it should be.

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