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  • Darren
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    her 6th was due to Tony Bennet who is very much an automatic win in Traditional Pop Album.

    Barbra Streisand’s Partners was her biggest album in years and it was more commercially successful than Cheek to Cheek. And Bennett just lost Traditional Pop Vocal Album this year to Willie Nelson, who he usually beats. He is not an automatic name-check.

    She didn’t win for BTW, was completely ignored for Artpop, and didn’t stand a chance against Ed for Joanne. Kendrick Lamar is an example of an artist who can win in his genre on any given year due to name recognition.

    No one expected her to win against Adele (funny you leave out the artist who beat her that time) or Ed Sheeran’s Divide. Sometimes a particular artist is having a moment and there’s nothing you can do about that. With rappers, it tends to last awhile. With pop singers, it tends to shift from album cycle to album cycle. And let’s not pretend that Kendrick has never been the victim of that (see 2014).

    I never said she was a darling before this year; I said she has always been liked by voters (6 vs. Katy Perry and Kesha’s 0, or Rihanna’s 3 for her own material) and looks to be approaching darling territory based on her heavy nominations haul and surprise Pop Solo win this year.

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    Gaga has the 3rd highest win ratio among her contemporary artists who receieved at least 15 noms over the years. She’s only behind Bruno Mars and Adele.

    I’m sorry but if that’s not Grammy darling for you, I don’t know what is.

    Oh Gee she lost to a x12 week #1 mega hit from someone who just won SoTY, she can’t be a Grammy darling! Come on, even Grammy darlings can lose sometimes (see Bruno and how he lost two awards to Lorde).

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    No one expected her to win against Ed Sheeran’s Divide.

    That’s not true. Gaga fans were sure she was winning that year.

    Darren
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    And Adele lost to Beyoncé in 2010, while we obviously did not see a repeat of that in 2017. Favor shifts constantly with pop stars. One winning does not mean that they hate another.

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    That’s not true. Gaga fans were sure she was winning that year.

    This is not true. I know some people thought Million Reasons had a chance (it was most likely the runner-up anyway). But I haven’t seen ANY Gaga fan on here who actually predicted Joanne to win over Divide.

     

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    Darren
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    That’s not true. Gaga fans were sure she was winning that year.

    Some. Sheeran was the consensus pick in both categories, an easy frontrunner.

    Just like how you predicted Dangerous Woman to beat 25, but that doesn’t mean it was a popular prediction.

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    µJust like how you predicted Dangerous Woman to beat 25, but that doesn’t mean it was a popular prediction.

    DC95 be dragging Oz like…

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    Some. Sheeran was the consensus pick in both categories, an easy frontrunner.

    Just like how you predicted Dangerous Woman to beat 25, but that doesn’t mean it was a popular prediction.

    No, it’s different cause Gaga stans were the majority. Ariana was like 3rd or 4th in the 2015 odds.

    Gaga though? She was leading the polls here, stans were filling threads up saying she would win, and even a certain user was sure she was winning.

    I’m here for Ms Ponytail getting dragged into the convo once again. Her pussy’s too powerful.

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    This is not true. I know some people thought Million Reasons had a chance (it was most likely the runner-up anyway). But I haven’t seen ANY Gaga fan on here who actually predicted Joanne to win over Divide.

    You should get glasses then.

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    Some. Sheeran was the consensus pick in both categories, an easy frontrunner. Just like how you predicted Dangerous Woman to beat 25, but that doesn’t mean it was a popular prediction.

    Joanne was winning the poll for Pop Vocal Album for months… Only in the last week Divide became the winner

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    Barbra Streisand’s Partners was her biggest album in years and it was more commercially successful than Cheek to Cheek. And Bennett just lost Traditional Pop Vocal Album this year to Willie Nelson, who he usually beats. He is not an automatic name-check.

    Barbra Streisand always loses Grammys when she’s nominated for 3 decades now. While Bennett always wins Traditional Pop Vocal Album/Performance, with 13(?) wins and only 3 losses, 2 of them against the same person(Michael Bublé). He even won multiple times for joint albums like CTC. He is an automatic name-check most of the time.

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    Joanne was winning the poll for Pop Vocal Album for months… Only in the last week Divide became the winner

    False.
    https://www.goldderby.com/odds/graph/grammy-awards-2018/pop-vocal-album/

    Barbra Streisand always loses Grammys when she’s nominated for 3 decades now. While Bennett always wins Traditional Pop Vocal Album/Performance, with 13(?) wins and only 3 losses, 2 of them against the same person(Michael Bublé). He even won multiple times for joint albums like CTC. He is an automatic name-check most of the time.

    Most of the time. But there was an easy way he and Gaga could have lost. And again, Partners was Barbra’s biggest album since the ’90s, so her bad luck at the Grammys could have easily turned around.

    But I’m not surprised that you of all people are trying to discredit the win.

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    Pop Vocal, not Pop Solo.

    Darren
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    Pop Vocal, not Pop Solo.

    Still false. I already corrected the post.

    Boz
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    Gaga could’ve lost Traditional Pop if they wanted to. Old voters are very picky, so they could’ve thought that she was too much of a popstar. So her win was earned, though Tony obviously was the leading factor.

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