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  • Matt2019
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    Expected snubs in 62nd Grammys:

    Lil Nas X – AOTY, ROTY(I doubt that Old Town Road might be passed over because it’s similar to Macarena)
    Ariana Grande – AOTY, ROTY, SOTY(a shocking scenario like last year)
    Lizzo – Best New artist( she released more than 1 album, therefore she’s ineligible)
    Ed sheeran – His latest album sucks
    Halsey – ROTY and SOTY
    Taylor Swift – Best Pop Duo for Me!(I doubt that she will likely bounce back with her 3rd single(likely Cruel Summer or The Man) by August 23 and submit it for ROTY and SOTY. Also, Lover album might win Best Pop Vocal album if Billie Eilish ends up in best alternative album). Also, expect a shocking surprise AOTY nom for Lover on November 20.

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    Expected snubs in 62nd Grammys: Lil Nas X – AOTY, ROTY(I doubt that Old Town Road might be passed over because it’s similar to Macarena) Ariana Grande – AOTY, ROTY, SOTY(a shocking scenario like last year) Lizzo – Best New artist( she released more than 1 album, therefore she’s ineligible) Ed sheeran – His latest album sucks Halsey – ROTY and SOTY Taylor Swift – Best Pop Duo for Me!(I doubt that she will likely bounce back with her 3rd single(likely Cruel Summer or The Man) by August 23 and submit it for ROTY and SOTY. Also, Lover album might win Best Pop Vocal album if Billie Eilish ends up in best alternative album). Also, expect a shocking surprise AOTY nom for Lover on November 20.

    please say sike.

    y'all ugly and smelly

    ELIAS
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    That’s the only thing I’m not buying because I’m not sure why the Grammys would suddenly have an issue with black women specifically after giving the top award to Lauryn Hill over Sheryl Crow, Madonna, and Shania Twain, which was by no means an uncompetitive roster. And because while no black woman may have won after Lauryn, several black artists have: OutKast, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock. Not to mention Childish Gambino, Alicia Keys, Chance the Rapper, Esperanza Spalding, John Legend, Seal, Luther Vandross, and Beyoncé won in other general field categories in the same period of time we’re talking about. The Grammys have an obvious blind spot with hip-hop and contemporary R&B, but I’m not a fan of baseless accusations of racism where they don’t apply. If Lizzo loses to Billie Eilish in any category this year, it will be because Billie is closer to the type of artist the Grammys typically fall for (which is not a synonym for “white” – see Alicia Keys), and because Billie is more successful than her.

    This is going to be my last comment on the race issue for the night. The Grammys do have a tendency to go for safe, boring, and yes, often white choices over more exciting, adventurous, and relevant albums, including those by artists of color. But do I think that is inherently racist? No. Take 2016, for example. I, like many here, found the choice of 1989 over To Pimp a Butterfly to be incredibly safe and uninspired. But can I see why it ended up that way, without reducing it to “THEY HATE BLACK PEOPLE”? Yes, absolutely. Number one, 1989 was a commercial giant. Most people listened to it or at the very least, heard a handful of its singles on the radio ad nauseum. Kendrick’s album produced no legitimate chart hits. Familiarity always helps. Should Grammy voters be listening to every nominated album? Yes. Are they? Probably not all of them. Secondly, 1989 is just a more accessible album. It’s light, breezy, melodic, catchy, and has a short runtime. To Pimp a Butterfly largely lacks in catchy pop hooks, doesn’t follow mainstream hip-hop trends, it’s long, aggressive, heavily conceptual, and requires a deep analysis of its lyrics – and often repeat listens – in order to be fully appreciated. If a Grammy voter had just become familiar with the album for the first time upon seeing the nominations list, it may not be an instant like. Or, it may just not be their type of thing at all. Different strokes for different folks. Weird choices are always going to happen when you have a contest that essentially compares apples and oranges. Billie Eilish and Lizzo, for example? They couldn’t be any more different.

    To establish on the point earlier, I definitely think the whole 1989/To Pimp A Butterfly was based on race. Honey the modern day American, yet alone the modern day Black men/women listen to a Ray Charles or Herbie Handcock. Imo, before I listened to “albums”, you are basically snubbing legends in basically 20-30 years from not just black men and women, but the American public. And it doesn’t make sense for 2011, 2015, and 2018 if you want to talk about commercialized records when Beyoncé had the biggest album in 2014, yet she’s lost to Indie darling. It doesn’t make sense when these Hip hop icons go mainstream like Kendrick Lamar’s DAMN. and Drake’s Scorpion and Views have commercialized radio friendly hit albums like 1989. Like 25. Like 24k Magic. And yet they still don’t win. And that’s such an issult towards Black nominees. And that’s fine. In 20-30 years they will regret it, when these Black icons like Kanye West, Kendrick Lamar, Beyoncé, and Frank Ocean will be idolized as one of the greats of or decade and these mediocre pop icons will be in the ditch. That’s what happened with Radiohead, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The White Stripes, Prince. So it don’t matter now.

    Barnacles Bro

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    And what are you trying to say? Should black urban artists make “safe music”  to be accepted by white voters? Rap has been a pioneering, changing genre within the last 5 years. Rather this should be grabbing force when all these genres are grabbing from rap, such as pop, electronic, country, and r&b. That should be a grabbing point for voters.

    Barnacles Bro

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    Expected snubs in 62nd Grammys: Lil Nas X – AOTY, ROTY(I doubt that Old Town Road might be passed over because it’s similar to Macarena) Ariana Grande – AOTY, ROTY, SOTY(a shocking scenario like last year) Lizzo – Best New artist( she released more than 1 album, therefore she’s ineligible) Ed sheeran – His latest album sucks Halsey – ROTY and SOTY Taylor Swift – Best Pop Duo for Me!(I doubt that she will likely bounce back with her 3rd single(likely Cruel Summer or The Man) by August 23 and submit it for ROTY and SOTY. Also, Lover album might win Best Pop Vocal album if Billie Eilish ends up in best alternative album). Also, expect a shocking surprise AOTY nom for Lover on November 20.

    Lover will probably be lowest common denominator from Taylor’s catalog. It’s really sad, when this is probably Taylor’s lowest selling and worst written, while Ariana had already won against Taylor last year. And no one had Ariana in the general field, especially after those weird GF nominations. Again not having Lil Nas X in ROTY is the worst snub probably of the night, if Billie still was in BNA. That’s the biggest song of the decade, yet alone the year, and snubbing it doesn’t seem even close. I even think I could even get into SOTY, since Despacito was in that catagory 2 years ago.

    Barnacles Bro

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    I only expect Billie Eilish to win Best new artist and ROTY. But, she wont win AOTY especially Ariana Grande because Taylor Swift is coming back to avenge from last year’s shocking AOTY snub with Lover(which it will likely be 1989/speak now vibes album).

    It’s only a snub when people actually wanted her in the catagory lol

    Barnacles Bro

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    What is ludicrous about Ariana winning a general field award?

    Oscars FYC.

    Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
    Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
    Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
    Charlize Theron — Best Actress
    Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
    JoJo Rabbit — Adapted Screenplay

    Vogue
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    I pray the Academy showers Billie with every nomination possible because how embarrassing would it be if….nvm.

    Oscars FYC.

    Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
    Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
    Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
    Charlize Theron — Best Actress
    Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
    JoJo Rabbit — Adapted Screenplay

    M
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    I think Billie’s biggest lock is AoTY. I won’t be surprised if she’s shown only a moderate amount of love.

    After all she isn’t bound to be one of the biggest stars of the decade. Her voice isn’t particularly versatile. If she releases one or two more albums with the same whispering style people will get tired of her.

    She might get the BNA and also get the BNA curse. I can see Lizzo having more longevity in the future.

    Robinladen
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    What is ludicrous about Ariana winning a general field award?

    If Ariana wins one she would have as many general field awards as Beyoncé and more than Rihanna or Lady Gaga. Even Taylor Swift only has two as she never won record or song. Now I know it’s not a science and not every year is the same. But for a mainstream artist she didn’t really make her era big enough to be competing for a win in the general field imo. Plus she’s still very catered to teens, it’s not like she elevated herself by making some deep and meaningful music. Her album is promoted by a playful song about her exes and a rich bitch anthem.

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    What is ludicrous about Ariana winning a general field award?

    Girl please I know you’re a stan but…

    If she lost to Joanne at a time when she was having the BIGGEST moment of her career with the release of TUN (voters voted when TUN had been #1 for many weeks), you can tell the voters don’t like her that much to award her something in the GF.

    Before you say “oh GIAW isn’t from TUN”, neither is Joanne from ASIB.

    Vogue
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    Girl please I know you’re a stan but… If she lost to Joanne at a time when she was having the BIGGEST moment of her career with the release of TUN (voters voted when TUN had been #1 for many weeks), you can tell the voters don’t like her that much to award her something in the GF. Before you say “oh GIAW isn’t from TUN”, neither is Joanne from ASIB.

    You basically just undermined Gaga’s influence during voting by implying ASIB’s hype wasn’t huge. If voters didn’t like her “that” much, she would’ve lost Pop Vocal Album. She won the category. We know why Joanne won, so I wouldn’t use that as a knock on Ariana.

    She has the biggest and one of the most critically acclaimed albums of the year, accompanied by two #1 smash hits. And unlike someone like Drake, she has the acclaim to help her case within the GF. Do I think she wins anything in the General Field? I think there are better bets, but I don’t get calling her General Field Winning chances “ludicrous”, especially when most of y’all have her at #2 or #3 in Album of The Year.

    And know, I’m not a stan. I enjoy her music, just like I do with a lot of other artists. Funny how you’re calling me a stan after you harrassed a poster earlier for simply thinking Katy makes better singles than Gaga.

    Oscars FYC.

    Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
    Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
    Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
    Charlize Theron — Best Actress
    Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
    JoJo Rabbit — Adapted Screenplay

    Vogue
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    Like let’s not act clueless. Pop voters were absolutely in love with Gaga last year. The Joanne nomination made sure of that.

    I just don’t think voters have this “lack or respect” for Ariana that y’all think they do.

    Oscars FYC.

    Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
    Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
    Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
    Charlize Theron — Best Actress
    Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
    JoJo Rabbit — Adapted Screenplay

    Vogue
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    Anyways, these are my General Field picks:

    AOTY – WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? by Billie Eilish
    ROTY – Truth Hurts by Lizzo
    SOTY – Thank U, Next by Ariana Grande
    BNA  – Billie Eilish

    OTR is basically my 1B for Record, though, there’s a possibility it gets completely snubbed from the General Field.

    Oscars FYC.

    Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
    Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
    Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
    Charlize Theron — Best Actress
    Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
    JoJo Rabbit — Adapted Screenplay

    M
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    What I was saying is that TUN’s moment propelled Ariana to win Pop Vocal Album but still fell short of winning Pop Solo Performance.

    Sure ASIB was a big moment, but still, musically speaking, Ariana was the one who had the #1 song in the country at the time. It just goes to show that voters don’t care that much about charts. If they find an artist they like more in the lineup, they’ll vote for them regardless, which is why I’m skeptical of Ariana’s chances in the GF. Had she won the two awards, I would’ve considered it a realistic possibility, but no…

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