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  • abelfenty
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    “Sunflower” deserves to win Pop Duo/Group.

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    Spotify: High Hopes – 650.7 million Sucker – 479.3 million YouTube: High Hopes – 355 million Sucker – 199 million Sales: High Hopes – 782,000 Sucker – 430,000 Current year-end Hot 100 estimations: 8. High Hopes 11. Sucker I think I know what I’m talking about.

    WOW. The delusion. High Hopes was released almost a year earlier than Sucker. Sucker is still at #12 and will end up higher than High Hopes at the end. Also Sucker is a #1 hit and spent way more weeks in Top 10. Senorita is miles bigger than High Hopes. It has 500M+ streams on YT and Spotify already.

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    WOW. The delusion. High Hopes was released almost a year earlier than Sucker. Sucker is still at #12 and will end up higher than High Hopes at the end. Also Sucker is a #1 hit and spent way more weeks in Top 10.

    #1 isn’t the end-all-be-all, and regardless of when “High Hopes” was released, it didn’t start taking off until last fall, which would only give it a few months’ advantage over “Sucker” at most. “Sucker” is not going to catch up with those sales or streaming numbers anytime soon, likely not ever. Just admit you were wrong.

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    High Hopes came out almost a year earlier than Sucker, so you can’t really compare streams when Sucker could very well outsell. Sucker could also outpeak it in the year end considering it’s still charting pretty high.

    But anyways, Panic have been consistently snubbed both in Rock and Pop (their last album sold well enough to get a nom over Shawn Mendes), and while High Hopes is baity, I feel like it’s a bit forgotten. That said, I’m not counting it out completely.

    Also, the Gaga argument is not applicable since Brendon Urie isn’t starting in the 2019 remake of The Sound of Music.

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    Boz
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    Also, Live versions only win when they’re by Grammy favourites or darlings. If Camila Cabello lost with a bigger hit and less competition (and an album nom, so Havana wasn’t a fluke nom), Panic can certainly lose.

    If anything, I think Hey Look Ma, I Made It stands a better chance. It was a huge radio hit, it peaked relatively high, and most importantly, it doesn’t reek of desperation.

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    #1 isn’t the end-all-be-all, and regardless of when “High Hopes” was released, it didn’t start taking off until last fall, which would only give it a few months’ advantage over “Sucker” at most. “Sucker” is not going to catch up with those sales or streaming numbers anytime soon, likely not ever. Just admit you were wrong.

    I didn’t say that being #1 is why Sucker is a bigger song.

    Sucker: 

    -Peak: #1

    -Weeks spent in Top 10: 22

    High Hopes:

    -Peak: #4

    -Weeks spent in Top 10: 15

    And also, Sucker is not done on charts and is still strong on streaming and sales.

    Señorita is without a doubt the biggest hit out of the three.

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    Also, Live versions only win when they’re by Grammy favourites or darlings.

    I wouldn’t call Maroon 5 or Train Grammy darlings.

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    I didn’t say that being #1 is why Sucker is a bigger song.

    Sucker: 

    -Peak: #1

    -Weeks spent in Top 10: 22

    High Hopes:

    -Peak: #4

    -Weeks spent in Top 10: 15

    That doesn’t mean anything when you look at the numbers I posted.

    A #4 hit is absolutely bigger than a #1 hit if the sales and streaming numbers are better. (Pretty sure “High Hopes” was also a bigger radio hit.)

    Especially given the context – “High Hopes” worked its way up the charts to a #4 peak while “Sucker” started at #1 and never went that high again.

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    Doesn’t matter which song got more streaming, that doesn’t change the fact High Hopes is FAR better than Sucker or Senorita.

    Moreover, the most successful song does not always win in Pop Duo and High Hopes fits perfectly alongside previous winners as Feel it Still, Stressed Out or Shallow.

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    Plus, if you want to bring up “Havana,” that actually makes a case for why “Señorita” isn’t winning. “Havana” was far and away the biggest hit in Pop Solo this year and lost; “Señorita” actually has strong competition in Pop DG, so what makes her chances any better this time?

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    Well, Sucker just seems bigger and more buzzy right now. High Hopes is older and didn’t really stand out like Sucker did when it was released, mostly because of JB comeback and it’s supported by a successful album.

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    It’s amazing how you guys keep treating Billie Eilish as if she was a big Grammy darling or a great artist just because her main competition is Ariana, disliked by most in here. Your bias is showing. Billie is a new artist, we don’t know how voters are going to react to her. They could give her AOTY or deny her even the Pop categories, specially now that Taylor is a contender. Chill. She’s no Adele or Sam Smith and even Adele did not sweep on her first year.

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    It’s amazing how you guys keep treating Billie Eilish as if she was a big Grammy darling or a great artist just because her main competition is Ariana, disliked by most in here. Your bias is showing. Billie is a new artist, we don’t know how voters are going to react to her. They could give her AOTY or deny her even the Pop categories, specially now that Taylor is a contender. Chill. She’s no Adele or Sam Smith and even Adele did not sweep on her first year.

    Billie Eilish is NOT winning over Gaga/Taylor/Ariana. Mark this tweet.

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    High Hopes is older and didn’t really stand out like Sucker did when it was released, mostly because of JB comeback and it’s supported by a successful album.

    …so is “High Hopes”. Pray for the Wicked and Happiness Begins have sold essentially the same amount of copies (the Jonas Brothers have a marginal lead, 417k to 411k, and they were aided by ticket bundles), while PFTW leads Happiness Begins by a considerable amount in SPS.

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    It’s amazing how you guys keep treating Billie Eilish as if she was a big Grammy darling or a great artist just because her main competition is Ariana, disliked by most in here. Your bias is showing. Billie is a new artist, we don’t know how voters are going to react to her. They could give her AOTY or deny her even the Pop categories, specially now that Taylor is a contender. Chill. She’s no Adele or Sam Smith and even Adele did not sweep on her first year.

    Billie has had a much bigger first year than Adele did, so that’s your first mistake.

    Yes, Billie is a new artist, but we know that the Grammys tend to prefer singer-songwriter type artists and alternative/alternative-ish artists over pop divas like Ariana. It’s just a matter of looking at history to see who has the edge.

    And that’s not even getting into the fact that Billie has had a bigger year commercially than Ariana.

    And it’s insane to suggest that she may not be nominated in either Pop Solo Performance or Pop Album. Both are happening, and she’s competitive to win in both categories.

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