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    borisy
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    u don’t need to have a hit song to get nominated for AOTY. Just last year Lana, Bon Iver, Vampire Bride, and HER all got nominated without any hits on their albums. and the album narrative that the album is a flop is just not true, it was just predicted to spend an 8th week at number on on the billboard 200. I have a feeling a second single is coming very soon so let’s see how that does, and cardigan is still a #1 even if it didn’t have as much longevity as her other singles.

    notice the artists, the only one close to mainstream is lana

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    Why are people putting so much weight into RS 500 list. Please stop using “the industry voted” as the reason. RS is trying to stay relevant. As much as I like some of the newer albums on that list, Fine Line for example being one of them, there is no way it is in the 500 greatest of all time.

    Yeah, didn’t The Guardian say those RS list are pure propaganda for labels pr something?

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    Boz
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    No one is giving Adele the same energy with her previous 2x time winner next year

    I think every serious predictor knows that Adele won’t get into AOTY unless she’s 100% undeniable this time around.

    Also Adele is definitely a bigger Grammy player than Taylor Swift.

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    Maybe Harry isn’t a sure bet, but if he makes it in, he could definitely siphon votes away from Taylor and The Weeknd.

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    Miss Americana
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    Adele May underperform or release an album that will be received bad. We don’t know and whatever Adele does won’t affect the Grammys 2021, just like Grammys 2016 weren’t affected by 25 release in any way.

    FYC Grammys 2021

    Folklore, best-selling album of 2020, 8 weeks #1 on BB200

    Highly acclaimed by all critics with 88/100 metascore

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    Boz
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    Does the Grammy look at the numbers of Grammys Adele or Beyonce had won and be like “OK, that’s enough”

    …Yes (?). What kind of question is that? Do you really think that an artist’s Grammy count is not a factor with committees?

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    People are indeed putting way too much weight on the RS500 list. It’s not like Fine Line made it to the top 100, or even top 200. It’s at #491.

    A handful of high placements on the individual list of the 300 contributors, and it would’ve been enough to get to where it ultimately landed. And not all of those contributers are even Grammy voters, many are journalists, editors etc. so their opinions don’t matter re. Grammys, so the list in its entirety does not reflect the actual taste of the Academy members.

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    People are indeed putting way too much weight on the RS500 list. It’s not like Fine Line made it to the top 100, or even top 200. It’s at #491.

    It’s definitely significant that a December 2019 album is already considered one of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

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    It’s definitely significant that a December 2019 album is already considered one of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

    And laughable. But I do think his weird inclusion says a lot, at least about his chances at the Grammys.

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    but also the deadline for RS5OO was two weeks after FL came out. So its way to hard to use that when less than half of the eligibility start and finished was used

    Whats your source because Rob Sheffield said it just closed right before Folklore came out ?????

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    Harry will probably do well at the AMAs. I’m assuming Pop Rock Male and Adult Contemporary are his. Maybe Pop/Rock Album? The AMAs does not have any correlation to the Grammys, but that could help turn the tides in the pop field.

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    People are indeed putting way too much weight on the RS500 list. It’s not like Fine Line made it to the top 100, or even top 200. It’s at #491. A handful of high placements on the individual list of the 300 contributors, and it would’ve been enough to get to where it ultimately landed. And not all of those contributers are even Grammy voters, many are journalists, editors etc. so their opinions don’t matter re. Grammys, so the list in its entirety does not reflect the actual taste of the Academy members.

    Besides the fact that it’s voted on by the industry which you are trying hard to discredit, the amount of people that could be grammy voters that probably saw that list and listened to Fine Line if they haven’t already, it probably helped more that it was 491 because it could’ve got lost in the middle but this was pretty early on.

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    Whats your source because Rob Sheffield said it just closed right before Folklore came out ?????

    Voting probably started around January. The list takes a very long time to compile since so many take part in it, thus I doubt anything released after then (After Hours, FTBC etc.) could be considered.

    FYC:

    AOTY: folklore, Gaslighter, Kid Krow, Ungodly Hour, Punisher, SAWAYAMA, Future Nostalgia, Manic

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    It’s definitely significant that a December 2019 album is already considered one of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

    And even more when the voters were industry people, most of which probably vote at the Grammys.

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    Voting probably started around January. The list takes a very long time to compile since so many take part in it, thus I doubt anything released after then (After Hours, FTBC etc.) could be considered.

    Well since no one actually knows the voting process or time line for it, let’s just say saying it helps Harry since he’s still got on there at the perfect time  and it probably looked good for him. Not as a comparison to others.

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