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Brandi will take a significant number of white voters from Americana, rock, country and other white leaning genres. She may not likely win but her presence will substantially split the white votes paving the way for a Beyonce win since Pop votes will be substantially split at the middle between Harry and Adele.
ReplyCopy URLBrandi will take a significant number of white voters from Americana, rock, country and other white leaning genres. She may not likely win but her presence will substantially split the white votes paving the way for a Beyonce win since Pop votes will be substantially split at the middle between Harry and Adele.
exactly, harry is much more of a threat to adele than mary is a threat to beyonce
ReplyCopy URLThe biggest question mark is if Beyoncé can get “outside” votes. Will she be able to get votes from country, rock/alternative, jazz, classical fields? Sure she can get pop/dance votes, but so can Adele, Harry, Coldplay, Lizzo etc. We know she can get a ton of hip hop/R&B votes, but so can Mary and Kendrick. Topping critics lists is not going to secure her enough votes to pull off a win. It didn’t with Self-titled or Lemonade. But having ten nominees makes this lineup even more harder to predict, so perhaps Beyoncé can benefit from that. An artist can technically win with 15% of the votes, for example.
Winners from a 8-10 nominee category should be based on a ranked voting.
ReplyCopy URLThe biggest question mark is if Beyoncé can get “outside” votes. Will she be able to get votes from country, rock/alternative, jazz, classical fields? Sure she can get pop/dance votes, but so can Adele, Harry, Coldplay, Lizzo etc. We know she can get a ton of hip hop/R&B votes, but so can Mary and Kendrick. Topping critics lists is not going to secure her enough votes to pull off a win. It didn’t with Self-titled or Lemonade. But having ten nominees makes this lineup even more harder to predict, so perhaps Beyoncé can benefit from that. An artist can technically win with 15% of the votes, for example. Winners from a 8-10 nominee category should be based on a ranked voting.
can you explain this? i was curious about this 15% percentage
ReplyCopy URLSaying the public is over Adele when her album is the highest-selling in the bunch is… odd. If her album is the highest-selling and people are “over her”, that logic would dictate people are over the other big-names as well, and they clearly aren’t.
Also, voters =/= general public.
Hasn’t Bad Bunny outsold already?
But even then y’all need to stop acting dense. 30 was clearly frontloaded and it was practically off the charts until recently, it also only produced one real hit. I don’t think that matters much foe her to win but please let’s stop the revisionism. These aren’t the BBMAs anyways so IDK why y’all are hellbent in proving homegirl is the most relevant artist of the year.
ReplyCopy URLI think I’ll only be mad if Brandi wins AOTY, even though she has an amazing voice and killed it on SNL. However, there are definitely more impactful songs of the eligibility period: Bad Bunny, Beyoncé, Adele, Kendrick, Harry Styles. Like choose out of those, and I feel like we can at least have a discussion about if they win. Brandi should not win on any merit.
ReplyCopy URLIs there any real statistic that says voters won’t vote for winners outside of their genre within the general field? Like do voters actually vote for a winner if their albums/songs sound similar to their retrospective genre ? I understand the appeal of doing so, but it basically generalizes voters rather than having concrete evidence of voting blocks doing so, especially when you have albums winning like Random Access Memories, Golden Hour, Morning Phase, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, We Are, The Suburbs, etc. winning over more popular & genre appealing albums.
ReplyCopy URLIs there any real statistic that says voters won’t vote for winners outside of their genre within the general field? Like do voters actually vote for a winner if their albums/songs sound similar to their retrospective genre ? I understand the appeal of doing so, but it basically generalizes voters rather than having concrete evidence of voting blocks doing so, especially when you have albums winning like Random Access Memories, Golden Hour, Morning Phase, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, We Are, The Suburbs, etc. winning over more popular & genre appealing albums.
Of course, it’s possible that voters in certain genres can vote outside of their genres. But it’s also not very realistic to believe Dr. Dre is voting for Brandi Carlile or Quincy Jones is voting for Coldplay. We don’t have “concrete evidence” because we are not actual voters, but we as outsiders can only speculate.
ReplyCopy URLHasn’t Bad Bunny outsold already?
But even then y’all need to stop acting dense. 30 was clearly frontloaded and it was practically off the charts until recently, it also only produced one real hit. I don’t think that matters much foe her to win but please let’s stop the revisionism. These aren’t the BBMAs anyways so IDK why y’all are hellbent in proving homegirl is the most relevant artist of the year.
30 was the top selling album of the year, according to Billboard. Bad Bunny won overall Billboard 200, though. There are more people “hellbent” on Adele being “over” than those defending her status in the industry, but have you called any of those people out?
can you explain this? i was curious about this 15% percentage
An artist/song/album doesn’t need a big percentage of votes to win in a lineup of ten.
ReplyCopy URLI saw your comments about this possibility, i just point that out because everybody thought it was 2017 all over again. They can land on other choices that wasn’t Beyonce or Adele and Carlile is the strongest and safest of them.
I agree with that, but the fact that she couldn’t beat Kacey Musgraves makes me put her in 3rd
Musgraves’ Golden Hour was the album with hype and acclaim around it. Country voters rally around that album but this year no country representation besides Brandi Carlile.
ReplyCopy URLI got you stuck in the realness
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