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    I think Lorde would have won had they not snubbed her, or she would have been a huge threat at least. The fact that they snubbed her for BNA, but had no issues with her actually winning SOTY was done on purpose. That’s the downfall of these committees.

    She was probably snubbed because they’ve become more cautious about nominating potential one-hit wonders ever since the “Best New Artist curse” started to be talked about. Gotye, who won ROTY, was also passed over for a nomination. Carly Rae Jepsen. Ella Mai just this year.

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    And as I said before, Lorde’s album was a slump commercially, but was hardly a slump overall. It was not a complete downfall in the same way Macklemore was. Melodrama was an AOTY nominee and is one of the most acclaimed releases of the decade.

    Why do you defend these types of artists anyway? It was the same thing with Alessia Cara last year and Camila Cabello this year.

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    What’s so bad about any of these artists? It’s not like I’m super-fans of them, I just don’t think the trashing is warranted. Also, just because I’m pointing out why the Grammys went for certain artists, doesn’t necessarily mean that those are the artists I would have personally championed.

    Macklemore is talented, has always been aware of his privilege, and made songs about social issues that mattered. And above all else, he had multiple songs that were both great and impacted the cultural landscape. He didn’t deserve to win over Kendrick, but I don’t think he was a horrible artist either.

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    What’s so bad about any of these artists? It’s not like I’m super-fans of them, I just don’t think the trashing is warranted. Also, just because I’m pointing out why the Grammys went for certain artists, doesn’t necessarily mean that those are the artists I would have personally championed.

    Macklemore is talented, has always been aware of his privilege, and made songs about social issues that mattered. And above all else, he had multiple songs that were both great and impacted the cultural landscape. He didn’t deserve to win over Kendrick, but I don’t think he was a horrible artist either.

    I don’t think they’re horrible, but they’re safe, boring and obvious fads. That’s the way the Grammys tend to go for them, and that’s the issue.

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    Also, last year’s Best New Artist lineup was horrifically weak. There’s a strong case to be made that Alessia Cara was the deserving winner. I think SZA is overrated.

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    Also, last year’s Best New Artist lineup was horrifically weak. There’s a strong case to be made that Alessia Cara was the deserving winner. I think SZA is overrated.

    Alessia Cara was undeserving because she shouldn’t have been eligible in the first place. And SZA could be overrated to you, but she’s more acclaimed and I can bet you her next album will do much better than Alessia’s both critically AND commercially. It’s like comparing Paula Cole to Erykah Badu anyway.

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    Dirty Computer > Black Panther > Golden Hour imo but Kacey is a great winner. The nominees were great this year tbh, I’d be fine with anyone winning but H.E.R, Drake or Post Malone.

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    Alessia Cara was undeserving because she shouldn’t have been eligible in the first place. And SZA could be overrated to you, but she’s more acclaimed and I can bet you her next album will do much better than Alessia’s both critically AND commercially. It’s like comparing Paula Cole to Erykah Badu anyway.

    SZA has been around even longer than Alessia, so that’s a moot point.

    And that’s the beauty of music being thoroughly subjective. Even numbers like Metacritic scores are based on the opinions of journalists.

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    SZA has been around even longer than Alessia, so that’s a moot point.

    And that’s the beauty of music being thoroughly subjective. Even numbers like Metacritic scores are based on the opinions of journalists.

    It’s not a “moot” point. Alessia Cara was riding that same album for three years before winning BNA. She even had a top 5 hit the first year the Grammys said no to her. The other nominees were already at a disadvantage. SZA didn’t really become a thing until Ctrl, so her BNA nomination was deserving and understandable.

    And the second part doesn’t change the fact that Alessia is a fad or that Lorde’s sophomore album will end the decade as one of the best releases.

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    Two years. Alessia’s album was released the 2015-16 year, then she got nominated for the 2016-17 year. She also entered for Best New Artist in the 2014-15 year but that was before her album was out. The rules allow for that. Take it up with the Grammys. But to complain she shouldn’t have been eligible is silly, especially in defense of SZA, who charted an album on the Billboard 200 a full year before Alessia ever released anything.

    And I said Lorde should have been nominated. The only thing I said was that she didn’t end up being a career artist, just like some of the other artists you’re naming. Devil’s advocacy.

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    I have a lot of things I have to take up with the Grammys, which is what’s being debated. So keep the condescending “take it up with the Grammys” remarks to a minimum.

    Fact of the matter is, Alessia Cara had a top 5 hit her first year and that extended into the 2nd year and the 3rd year. That was completely unfair and she should have been deemed ineligible.

    And I will continue to defend SZA’s nomination over Alessia’s three times a charm nomination and win. SZA’s first major album was Ctrl, thus her nomination made sense. Alessia’s situation will never make sense. I don’t care what the Grammy rules “allow.”

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    DC95 you need to chill dude. You’re rude almost all the time. People can have different opinions. No need to act like a cocky smartass because someone disagrees with you.

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    DC95 you need to chill dude. You’re rude almost all the time. People can have different opinions. No need to act like a cocky smartass because someone disagrees with you.

    You claimed earlier I was personally attacking you. As far as I can see, you’re the only one resorting to name-calling.

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    Never discount the surprise nominee.

    Also learned that Neil Portnow will never miss an opportunity to self-aggrandize. A tribute video? No, sir. The Academy presidents don’t even pull that nonsense.

    So glad that Dua Lipa shaded him in her BNA acceptance speech lol.

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    The BNA rules are a mess and clearly used as it suits them. So arguing about “fairness” is pointless.

    I think the real problem is that they usually vote on the artist who is more successful so far, when they should vote for the one they think is gonna have the better/bigger career. Meghan was already fading by the time she was nominated/won, it was obvious she didn’t have lasting appeal, and IMO, she’s too basic and generic. Fun was basically a one hit wonder. Macklemore was fine but Sheeran, Musgraves or Lamar were all better options.

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