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    A lot of popular artists are often expose to be flawed people (ie. Camila Cabello). This is a big issue so the question is: can you enjoy an artist’s music while knowing them to be bad people and is that morally wrong?

    Interested to hear opinions on this.

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    Yes with Demi Lovato being the exception.

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    Honestly, it’s up to that specific person if they choose to listen to that said artist or not. I could think of a bunch of things where I have had personal feelings towards songs and albums released by problematic artists: R.Kelly & Michael Jackson for instance. I mean I learned to accept that sometimes music is not needed if it’s problematic, but again it’s your choice. If you still want to listen to thriller and rock out to that, be my guest. But don’t hate on someone if they choose to listen or not listen to your music.

    With the case with Camilla Cabello, I probably will never ever think of her the same. I used to watch X Factor and remembered how much everyone adored them, so personally it really is sentimental. Although, this has change when she decided to use racist and derogatory speech about Normani, a bandmate. I have a feeling that Camilla could have or already has changed from that demeanor, but honestly I was never a fan to begin with. She makes boring pop songs, she’s annoying voice, as a catering Latin pop music for American audiences.

    I will say this again and again, Camilla Cabello is a disgrace to the Latin community, with controversy and with music. Honey to say that a light-toned (let me mind you) Latin is talking about someone close to them the no-no world is abhorrent. You do not realize the racist people in both the Latin community as well as the Black community face, as me being part of both of them. My hair becomes too curly to handle at times, I have had police officers racially profile me, I get looks and attitude everywhere I go. So please, I don’t feel bad for her. There are much bigger fish to fry dealing with race. She is cancelled in my book. 

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    Chris Brown:

     

    I’ve listened to his music since I was like probably 6, and I really didn’t know anything about Rihanna drama until I was older. I have sexually and physically abused, so to hear things that upset me was abhorrent coming from someone I have admire since childhood. 
     

    I remember 2 years ago that I falling in love with someone who listened to Chris Brown, and I remember listening to Back to Sleep and being like yeah I am in love. But after that person did me dirty, I am just like, “Heffa, weren’t you the one that loves Frank Ocean? After what he did to Frank, I fell in love so hard that I started listening to Chris Brown.”

     

    I feel like it re-establishes your love for another artists like Frank or RiRi because it shows how much respect you have for them as an artist as well as person to respectfully say, no, I am not going to listen to a problem artists that has a negativity in your life anyways.

     

    Anyways, currently Chris Brown is problematic and his music is trashy, prove me wrong.

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    Sexual assault is too much for me to overlook, both with music and with film, so for me I don’t listen to artists like Michael Jackson and R. Kelly. Most other things I’m able to move past, but only if there’s some effort from the artists towards changed behavior.

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    Most of the time I forget about what the artist did. A good song is a good song. I probably wouldn’t be a fan or purchase merchandise/tickets from them, but I’ll stream their music or watch their performances/videos if I like it.

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    Personally I think it goes both ways and I like to judge case by case.

    What I don’t accept is when fans of an artist excuse the artist’s actions on the basis of the quality of their music. Responding that they’re the goat in response to valid points about the problematic behavior an artist exhibits is gross.

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    most geniuses are assholes to varying extent, a few drunk fights or drug use is nothing in the face of great talent, sexual assault though is entirely inexcusable

    with certain acts mentioned in this thread though, it’s just hard to imagine they had any kind of real creative input in the rare good songs they do release, so I kinda don’t care?

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    Because no one is perfect, for me, it would have to depend on what the act has done, how guilty they are of it meaning how often did they do whatever wrong they are guilty of and is the wrong doing something that they continue to be into and if they don’t do anymore whatever it is, how do they feel now about their doing it at all. No two people are going to agree on everything and so that is another thing to consider when choosing to have anything to do with someone that you may have a certain kind of issue with or not.

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    I think is an issue if you are part of stan culture. Mainstream music consumption (big radio, Spotify big playlists) support the music when it’s good, nobody commuting or at the gym will change the station or skip a song because the singer said the N word or was accused of rape – for better or worse. Works the same for tv and movie celebs, your opinion has no weight if what they put out is actually good.

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    my opinion has changed with shaming people who like a certain artist. I feel like there would be no point because they would feed into their negativity. I probably would never support that artist: Camila, Chris, or 69, I really don’t give a fuck about their success. I just feel that people who do like a problematic artist should understand where others on the other side are coming from. Where people’s frustrations lie as well as not to go further to upset those angry.

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