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    Is that poster really wrong? “Havana” may be the biggest contender here, but the Grammys have not been particularly kind to these types of songs.

    I can’t say if that poster is right or wrong because I don’t know what a “respectable-sounding song” is and why Havana, which already made it to the nominations, isn’t one. If anything, I’m picking up on some racist undertones, but I’d like to assume that isn’t the case.

    And what other songs similar to Havana have been nominated? Despacito is also Latin, but it’s more reggaeton (which the Grammys are already being called out for for not honoring in this year’s nominations) while Havana is more of a traditional pop song with mariachi elements.

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    He’s obviously not talking about race here. He likely means “Havana” is too teeny. I don’t agree as I think the song is bigger than Camilla but a lot of people here do feel it’s too teeny.

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    I’d like to assume that isn’t the case.

    I don’t think that person meant it that way. I think it was meant that these pure pop songs that appeal to mainly younger crowds typically don’t do well at the Grammys. Like Katy Perry. You could go back to Britney and Christina before “Beautiful.” Look at the past winners. They tend to go to ballads or songs by the singer-songwriter type. “Bad Romance” broke a precedent, but Gaga was Gaga at the time, and the category was even weaker then than it is now. You could be right, and “Havana” wins it here, but we were also sure about “Despacito” winning at least one Grammy. It didn’t happen.

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    He’s obviously not talking about race here. He likely means “Havana” is too teeny. I don’t agree as I think the song is bigger than Camilla but a lot of people here do feel it’s too teeny.

    What makes Havana more teeny than any other recent winners? I’ve seen people say this a lot, but with nothing to back it up.

    It’s an odd argument since there are as many adults as teens who like the song, and it performed well on radio stations that appeal to older audiences (#1 on adult pop, #5 on adult contemporary).

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    Havana is more of a traditional pop song with mariachi elements.

    I know you’re not latin@, so I won’r bag on you too much for this.

    But no.

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    What makes Havana more teeny than any other recent winners?

    Which recent winners?

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    You could be right, and “Havana” wins it here, but we were also sure about “Despacito” winning at least one Grammy. It didn’t happen.

    This field is a lot less competitive than Pop Duo/Group was last year, or any of the categories Despacito lost. Feel It Still, Something Just Like This, Thunder, and Stay were also big hits. Any of those songs could reasonably have won. I don’t think Despacito’s lack of wins means they didn’t like the song, or that they won’t like Havana.

    I just think that when the closest competition are less popular hits by Ariana Grande and Post Malone (the latter of whom missed a Pop Album nomination that Camila also has), and the category is rounded out by random picks from Beck and Lady Gaga, that Havana can easily triumph where Despacito failed.

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    Honey, I just can’t picture the phrase, “Grammy-Award winner Camila Cabello.” BARF!!

    CHRISTINA AGUILERA

    2019 Grammy Award nominee:

    Best Pop Duo/Group Performance - "Fall In Line"
    Best Rap/Sung Performance - "Like I Do"

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    While I do have Havana as the frontrunner, she could very well be snubbed like other females with the so called “teenage” persona. You don’t see Adele performing at the Kid Choice Awards.

    Who to upset then? Beck could win if he gets some older voters attention, but I don’t rule out GIAW winning.

    It would be awesome if Gaga won with such a relatively obscure song but that ain’t happening.

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    I know you’re not latin@, so I won’r bag on you too much for this.

    But no.

    I’m aware that mariachi is typically Mexican (sidenote: Camila Cabello is half Mexican), but the end of Havana does sound like mariachi music to me. Maybe it’s something else.

    But that’s besides the point. Havana is not a reggaeton song like Despacito is.

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    What makes Havana more teeny than any other recent winners? I’ve seen people say this a lot, but with nothing to back it up. It’s an odd argument since there are as many adults as teens who like the song, and it performed well on radio stations that appeal to older audiences (#1 on adult pop, #5 on adult contemporary).

    Probably because Camilla herself is an ex member of a girl group that appealed to teens. And this isn’t Beyonce during her solo debut here. I think she’s looked at the same way as Britney Spears (who also didn’t win with her mega hit in 2000) because she isn’t particularly talented or hasn’t shown it yet.

     

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    Havana is, in fact, more derived of traditional Cuban music (shocker), but I see how it could be confused with Mexican music for a non-spanish listener.

    I think the song is way more pop than Despacito. Reggaeton is not very smooth, and Daddy Yankee is a rapper. Submitting the live version was the right move.

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    Live recordings have a good track record here, though.

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    If Despacito couldn’t win, Havana is not winning either. I’ll be VERY shocked if that happens.

    #1 Colors, Joanne or GIAW
    #2 ditto
    #3 ditto
    #4 Havana
    #5 Better Now

    The Grammys play too safe to give a award to Camila or Post Malone, unless it’s a featuring in someone else’s song(see: Justin Bieber).

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    Probably because Camilla herself is an ex member of a girl group that appealed to teens. And this isn’t Beyonce during her solo debut here. I think she’s looked at the same way as Britney Spears (who also didn’t win with her mega hit in 2000) because she isn’t particularly talented or hasn’t shown it yet.

    Plus, Fifth Harmony was completely ignored by the Recording Academy.

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