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    Briana Breeze
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    I recently came across this article on Billboard discussing the lack of female pop artists on the charts. A similar article came out earlier this year discussing for the first time in 33 years that the Billboard top ten was dominated by male artists.

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    http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7832867/female-pop-stars-gone-albums-chart-hot-100

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    Adele is done for the decade. You won’t see a new Adele album till at least 2020. Expect Swift to release a new album in October and have further success in 2018. Beyonce will release a new album in 2018. Same goes for Rihanna or possibly fall of 2017.

    I am shocked at what has happened to Gaga and Katy. They were reigning the early 2010s with Teenage Dream and Born This Way. It’s just a different time now. I doubt it was because of anything political. They don’t have the it factor anymore nor do they set trends.

    As for Miley and Selena, they are the trendsetters of young people due to the fact that they are in the same age range. Songs like “Malibu” and “Bad Liar” aren’t exactly the formulaic pop hits. Give it time and I’m sure their follow up singles will bring them back on top.

    I’m not shocked about what happened with Lorde. She waited too long. I understand she waited until the album was perfect in her eyes, but it just didn’t work out. Maybe she will surprise us with a sleeper hit or a song we didn’t expect to make it in the top 10.

    As for Camila Cabello, I saw that coming. I think her album coming out and having the sales that it will have would be satisfying enough. “Crying in the Club” being successful as it is is victory enough.

    Halsey will have great success eventually. She is just breaking out and I would say that as time goes on, she’ll be burning down the charts.

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    A lot of the obvious contenders are taking a break and those who aren’t didn’t really deserve to flop. Joanne isn’t bad but it just didn’t click and she also sort of screwed up singles, videos and promotion. I haven’t listened to Witness, I’ve never listened to an entire Katy album, but Swish Swish is a fantastic song that didn’t deserve to flop and there are much worse songs on Billboard right now. People got over her I guess after almost 10 years. She should’ve at least had the decency to release a video for Swish by now, so there’s another screw up. She’s basically letting the album flop.

    As for the young girls. They were never THAT succesful and they’re making previous hits look like flukes. But they still have plenty of time to come back.

    While their Billboard placement is gone, at least their fame is mostly intact so they can all come back for sure. They’re still huge stars, they’re just not in the Top10 right now.

    Adele is gone now for who knows how many years, and the other three mentioned before will come back soon enough, I asume starting with Swift who is aready taking longer than usual.

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    I kind of blame Billboard itself, as I think their formula is flawed. The top 10 throughout this whole year is evidence of this. Bad Liar and Malibu, by Selena and Miley respectively have been all over the radio where I live. Their sales are good, their YouTube is strong, their online chatter is likewise strong, they’re streaming is okay. Then, of course, you have your garbage, interchangeable, mumble rappers consistently putting out top ten hits due solely to streaming. I understand streaming is the primary source of music consumption now, but for the first time in my life, I do not believe the billboard charts accurately represent the songs the United States are listening to.

     

    As as far as the female pop stars themselves, I just feel like there is a lack of fun like there used to be. As previously stated, Beyonce, Rihanna, Adele, and Taylor are the only guaranteed impactors. Adele because of her universal appeal, but the other three because their brilliant balance of hits and meaning on their albums.

    Katy Perry and Lady Gaga aren’t releasing the type of music their fans want to hear- I’m a huge fan of both, and am obviously very sad their work is “flopping”. I didn’t really enjoy Witness, but Swish Swish is one of my favorite songs of the year so far, but it’s lack of a video is causing its downfall in the charts. As for Joanne, it was different but good. Million Reasons was strong but lacked longevity. She never released a follow up single, and didn’t promote John Wayne at all.

    Ive already spoken about Miley and Selena. I think they will see more success with their current singles, and have successful albums too. Same with Ariana Grande.

    Camilla, Halsey, Bebe, and Alesia just need some more hits before they are on the same level as the others.

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    Selena has a MASSIVE following on social media and a extremely loyal fan base so… maybe she’ll be the next pop diva. Miley, I’m not sure. A few years ago though, she could’ve been pop’s Marilyn Manson (except with all of the style and shock but none of the substance). But now, she’s all “Oh, I’m all country now! I’m not crazy anymore! I’m family friendly”. And it’s just not convincing.

    Halsey will have her loyal fan base. That’s it. I feel that she tries to portray herself as this deep, intellectual artist, when she just makes pop music. Nothing that special really.

    I think Ariana Grande is well on her way to be a pop diva, If she’s not already. She can definitely be playing stadiums in the next couple of years since the radio and the whole music industry includes her in everything. She has a massive loyal army of fans and is the number 3 most followed person on Instagram. Quality wise, I’ve always thought that Ariana should sing songs that let her voice soar since she has such a high and wide vocal range. There are songs where she does do that and songs where she settles. But other then that, she is on the right track.

    I think the one person that DESERVES to be up there with Adele, Beyonce, Rihanna etc. is Lorde. In only two albums, not even being 21, she has already proved herself to be an expert songwriter and performer. She won two grammys at the age of 17 and has complimented by Nirvana and David Bowie. Bowie himself said before he died that she was the future of music. That’s something that has to be looked at. And I promise you, when we look back on this decade, we’re gonna look back at songs like “Royals” and really appreciate her. That’s just my opinion

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    When exactly will things happen for Selena Gomez though? Hasn’t enough time passed already? She has the most ridiculous ammount of followers (she’s the most followers on IG righ?) and her musical success pales in comparisson to many who have less than half her following. Which of course makes me ask, where is this following comming from? Her music is crap, she doesn’t sell, does she tour? Why do people follow her?

    And without the need to get into fanboyish annoying discussions, isn’t she the blandest, dullest of the girls and women mentioned? Yes, she’s super young, and some might say there’s still time, but I’ve never seen her be popular musically and that following she has will fade away because those girls are going to grow up eventually and get tired of waiting for anything substantial from her. That question I asked is going to start comming to those followers too one of these days.

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    Don’t blame Hip Hop or Streaming i think it’s because most of the mentioned artists have limited appeal

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    When exactly will things happen for Selena Gomez though? Hasn’t enough time passed already? She has the most ridiculous ammount of followers (she’s the most followers on IG righ?) and her musical success pales in comparisson to many who have less than half her following. Which of course makes me ask, where is this following comming from? Her music is crap, she doesn’t sell, does she tour? Why do people follow her? And without the need to get into fanboyish annoying discussions, isn’t she the blandest, dullest of the girls and women mentioned? Yes, she’s super young, and some might say there’s still time, but I’ve never seen her be popular musically and that following she has will fade away because those girls are going to grow up eventually and get tired of waiting for anything substantial from her. That question I asked is going to start comming to those followers too one of these days.

    Bad Liar is one of the least generic and most interesting pop songs released this decade but of course people let it flop. She had like 3 top 10s of her last album and she went #1 with revival which is more than can be said for Demi.

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    They’re main problem is they’re all too fucking stupid to look at what promotion strategy works. Announce a single let buzz start but don’t be vague as shit. Then when you do drop the single drop a really interesting video same day gets chatter going mental and announce the album same day. Works every time for Swift. Malibu would have been a hit if she hadn’t fucked up the announcement qith that stupid billboard interview. Selena fucked up by not releasing that music video straight away cause honestly it would have been huge straight out of the gates

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    When exactly will things happen for Selena Gomez though? Hasn’t enough time passed already? She has the most ridiculous ammount of followers (she’s the most followers on IG righ?) and her musical success pales in comparisson to many who have less than half her following. Which of course makes me ask, where is this following comming from? Her music is crap, she doesn’t sell, does she tour? Why do people follow her? And without the need to get into fanboyish annoying discussions, isn’t she the blandest, dullest of the girls and women mentioned? Yes, she’s super young, and some might say there’s still time, but I’ve never seen her be popular musically and that following she has will fade away because those girls are going to grow up eventually and get tired of waiting for anything substantial from her. That question I asked is going to start comming to those followers too one of these days.

    Bad Liar is one of the least generic and most interesting pop songs released this decade but of course people let it flop. She had like 3 top 10s of her last album and she went #1 with revival which is more than can be said for Demi.

    Demi Lovato is a Grammy Nominee which is more than can be said for Selena. And Demi was blocked from number 1 with less that 1k copies, so let’s not.

    Lol, in all seriousness, if we want female pop stars to succeed you need to not compare them against each other. All these guys are smashing right now and nobody is comparing them. But right when Selena released everyone was comparing her success to Malibu. Miley went too 10! Selena got three pop number 1’s! Demi is a Grammy nominee! Be happy for all of them!

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    A lot of the obvious contenders are taking a break and those who aren’t didn’t really deserve to flop. Joanne isn’t bad but it just didn’t click and she also sort of screwed up singles, videos and promotion.

    This. Joanne is not what I was wanting/expecting from Gaga, but the era could’ve been so much better. If she was going to go all acoustic, she should’ve released “Million Reasons” first instead of “Perfect Illusion” (her worst first single to date). “Dancing In Circles” would’ve been a perfect summer single. And a cool video for “Hey Girl” with Florence Welch would’ve gone farther than a random video for “John Wayne.”

    AND imagine if Gaga had actually promoted “The Cure,” even dropped it after the Super Bowl. SMDH. But I’ve learned to just accept that Gaga is going to be Gaga… her voice and stage presence will allow her to have a career much longer than most of her contemporaries.

    Otherwise, I’d say Ariana Grande is above and beyond the other pop stars her age. I think she is only going to get bigger.

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