Deborah Dugan & Grammy controversy

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The Grammys voting procedures are notoriously opaque, with what Deborah Dugan describes as “secret committees” reviewing a longlist of 15 to 20 nominees in most categories, before whittling them down to the five or eight artists they feel are best representative of the list.

Dugan alleges the process is compromised by numerous irregularities, such as:

Some committee members represent or have relationships with the nominated artists, and push them onto the ballot
The board can arbitrarily nominate people who did not even make the longlist

The board “manipulates the nominations process to ensure that certain songs or albums are nominated when the producer of the Grammys wants a particular song performed during the show”

The committee reviewing nominations for the 2019 song of the year award chose as one of its eight final nominees a song that had initially ranked 18th out of 20.

Dugan alleges the artist behind the song was allowed to sit on the committee

The complaint also criticises the lack of diversity in these committees, saying that “between 2012 and the present, the board has been approximately 68% male and 69% Caucasian”.

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[syrus80]

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According to former Recording Academy President Deborah Dugan, “No Tears Left To Cry” by Ariana Grande was originally supposed to be nominated at the 2019 Grammy Awards for Song Of The Year but was replaced by a rigged song that did not have enough votes.

Some are speculating that it was Shawn Mendes that got the nomination instead of Ariana.

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[joesilver]

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We already talked about this. The Ariana song is Thank U, next and the ex-president is talking about the current Grammy nominees for SOTY.

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[Ghost Joined: Sep 27th, 2011 Topics: 81 Posts: 9819 View Predictions]

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THIS is what I find hard to believe:
https://twitter.com/SmilerZetroc/status/1219831861997973504/photo/1

And which category was this song even in contention for?

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[Robinladen Joined: Sep 9th, 2017 Topics: 0 Posts: 830 View Predictions]

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The face

The brand

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[M Joined: Sep 27th, 2017 Topics: 18 Posts: 6460 View Predictions]

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Ghost wrote:

THIS is what I find hard to believe: https://twitter.com/SmilerZetroc/status/1219831861997973504/photo/1 And which category was this song even in contention for?

That’s made up by fans, delusional miley cyrus stans.

Here’s the full lawsuit: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6667703-Dugan.html

No mention of that

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[BICTH Joined: Nov 3rd, 2016 Topics: 3 Posts: 3020 View Predictions]

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Ghost wrote:

THIS is what I find hard to believe: https://twitter.com/SmilerZetroc/status/1219831861997973504/photo/1 And which category was this song even in contention for?

they made that up lmao, there’s no mention of her or that song in the document

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[Robinladen Joined: Sep 9th, 2017 Topics: 0 Posts: 830 View Predictions]

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Honestly this is the one time the Grammy’s should be happy no1curr about them. If this was the Oscars, this scandal would be so much bigger and all over the place.

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[kenboi99 Joined: Aug 30th, 2019 Topics: 4 Posts: 744 View Predictions]

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They need to get rid of the panel all together. This is a mess! I have a feeling some of these members were being paid out to select certain artists. How else would they benefit from this?

no we need the panel or else Ed Sheeran would get all 4 mom for  of the terrible shake of you

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[Cameron Joined: Sep 11th, 2019 Topics: 8 Posts: 1934 View Predictions]

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They need to remove voters doing fraudulent stuff like this

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[Atypical Joined: Dec 1st, 2011 Topics: 355 Posts: 21820 View Predictions]

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The way Dugan was treated is pretty wretched. It’s proof positive the Recording Academy is a collective group of old, shitty, rich white men intent on protecting the status quo at all costs at the expense of this newly ousted female chair. Sad state of affairs really.

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Honey, these “secret” committees be filled with a bunch of old white dudes from Utah.  #NoDiversity

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[Briana Breeze Joined: Mar 20th, 2013 Topics: 25 Posts: 425 View Predictions]

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Also, just read how “Caution” by Mariah Carey and “Madame X” by Madonna, their latest albums had enough votes to be in contention for AOTY nominations, however, they were passed over in favor of albums with less votes.

Now, regarding Mariah, I think that she was on the verge of a nomination in the R&B field, album in particularly as a lot of people on here were predicting her in R&B Album, so I would have not been too surprised if she was also up for AOTY considering she is a veteran.

For those who want to look it up, it is on page 6 of the document going around mentioning several other R&B and Hip Hop artists who were blocked of winning Record, Song and Album of the Year

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brianabreeze wrote:

Also, just read how “Caution” by Mariah Carey and “Madame X” by Madonna, their latest albums had enough votes to be in contention for AOTY nominations, however, they were passed over in favor of albums with less votes.

That isn’t what the document says, at all.

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