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  • Boz
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    You’re making zero sense. First you say throughout this thread that he’s underperforming, then now say his tour bundle sales are fine. Therefore by process of elimination you are saying his streams are the underperformance.

    Wow it really is hard for you to understand. My main post said that he isn’t flopping, just that he’s depending more on tour bundles, therefore being somewhat of an underperformance. Tour bundles and traditional sales are two different things. For example, that new BTS album did a bunch of pure sales and had no bundles.

    However you are then saying he is not a streaming artist (which is painfully unfactual, especially when he’s getting more streams than Lil Baby).

    A streaming artist is an artist that depends on streaming, not an artist that does well on it. Taylor Swift gets a bunch of streams and she’s definitely just a “streaming artist”; someone like Youngboy NBA, is.

    Boz
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    3. I don’t even think that The Weeknd is flopping at all. His numbers are still phenomenal even if they are less than I was expecting.

    Literally the whole convo two sentences.

    rue
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    Wow it really is hard for you to understand. My main post said that he isn’t flopping, just that he’s depending more on tour bundles, therefore being somewhat of an underperformance. Tour bundles and traditional sales are two different things. For example, that new BTS album did a bunch of pure sales and had no bundles.

    Exactly. His numbers aren’t bad by any means but he ended up getting more bundles than I would’ve expected (in this climate) and less of everything else. It ain’t that serious.

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    My main post said that he isn’t flopping, just that he’s depending more on tour bundles, therefore being somewhat of an underperformance.

    Depending on tour bundles is an underperformance? Lmao give it up. I am well aware you are not calling the album a flop, but it is still not an underperformance. Please look at the literal facts I’ve posted that have seem to gone through one of your eyes then out the other.

    Also, define the word “depending”, cause as per HDD he is doing more units in SEA than tour bundles.

    Were you somehow expecting him to do +500K, outdoing a bigger artist such as Post Malone, or maybe you thought he would match Drake’s streams?

    For example, that new BTS album did a bunch of pure sales and had no bundles.

    But had different album editions for the different members (7 in total) which their rabid fans obviously bought all of them. That is another chart tactic.

    Literally the whole convo two sentences.

    So it is your own fault that you clearly don’t follow the charts well enough and had some unrealistic expectations for what numbers After Hours could pull? Got it.

    Boz
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    Depending on tour bundles is an underperformance?

    Yes.

    So it is your own fault that you clearly don’t follow the charts well enough and had some unrealistic expectations for what numbers After Hours could pull?

    Sure.

    rue
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    So it is your own fault that you clearly don’t follow the charts well enough and had some unrealistic expectations for what numbers After Hours could pull? Got it.

    Yes. We thought the Weeknd had more hype with this album and was going to perform (for me) around 500K (which could still happen). It isn’t a big deal. Maybe our expectations were way off, so what?

    Boz
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    Anyways stream Supalonely by BENEE.

    Boz
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    Yes. We thought the Weeknd had more hype with this album and was going to perform (for me) around 500K (which could still happen). It isn’t a big deal. Maybe our expectations were way off, so what?

    Honey don’t bother. Between them and that dude who said Don’t Start Now wasn’t a hit, it seem like GoldDerby’s on c***k today.

    JennyLewisFan
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    Anyways stream Supalonely by BENEE.

    The song’s okay. Not crazy over it. Maybe after a few replays.

    Boz
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    The song’s okay. Not crazy over it. Maybe after a few replays.

    It’s a grower IMO. At first I hated it but for some reason I’ve been literally obsessed these few days.

    JennyLewisFan
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    It’s a grower IMO. At first I hated it but for some reason I’ve been literally obsessed these few days.

    I’d leave it out of award discussion for now tho. It has some mild top-20 chart success potential.

    Boz
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    IDK, it gives me Billie Eilish “bad guy” vibes (Not that it’ll win SOTY and ROTY, just as a song). Except it’s better cuz it’s not, you know, that.

    JennyLewisFan
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    IDK, it gives me Billie Eilish “bad guy” vibes (Not that it’ll win SOTY and ROTY, just as a song). Except it’s better cuz it’s not, you know, that.

    Nah, I’m not getting a “bad guy” vibe from this in any way. “bad guy” was instantly a quirky and slightly spooky jam. This is far brighter and has potential to be a jam.

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    mmmmm BTS sold a lot in pure sales but had different versions of the album

    kpop fans collect those albums because each version has different pictures and even color books (lol)

    Its a valid tactic and in my opinion very similar to bundles, because it inflates the numbers

    but anyways….BTS album even debuting with big numbers is now irrelevant

    so I Think more important that a grand debut is longevity.

    like Abel has with blinding lights for example…now if he gets another decent hit withing the album I think his performance could have more stability

    But IMO he is doing well enough considering this time

    supermodelslegs
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    mmmmm BTS sold a lot in pure sales but had different versions of the album

    kpop fans collect those albums because each version has different pictures and even color books (lol)

    Its a valid tactic and in my opinion very similar to bundles, because it inflates the numbers

    Taylor did the exact same thing with Lover and her four versions of the same album just with exclusive excerpts inside. If she wouldn’t of done that it wouldn’t of sold nearly as much.

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