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November 18, 2022 at 2:12 pm #1205159575
They better give us a decent performer line-up because it’s been so long since it was good. Hoping for big names Adele, Beyoncé, Kendrick & Taylor since they’re all nominated. SZA has an album coming in December, they should book her. If Rihanna has dropped her album lead by then, her too.
I’d also love a Doja medley of Woman and Vegas, but not sure if it’ll happen.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 19, 2022 at 5:53 pm #1205160661Artists who should be invited:
- Adele: I Drink Wine
- Beyonce: RENAISSANCE Medley
- Harry Styles: Late Night Talking
- Bad Bunny: Moscow Mule
- Kendrick Lamar: The Heart Part 5
- Lizzo: Naked
- Steve Lacy: Bad Habit
- Mary J. Blige: Good Morning Gorgeous
- Brandi Carlile: Broken Horses
- Miranda Lambert: In His Arms
- Future: Wait For U
- Muni Long: Hrs and Hrs
- Wet Leg
- Omar Apollo: Evergreen
- Anitta: Envolver
- Maneskin
- Doja Cat: Vegas
Harry performed Watermelon Sugar last time, I can’t see him performing LNT. If he had to perform another single from his album it could be MFASR but 99% sure it’ll be As It Was.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 19, 2022 at 6:58 pm #1205160700<p style=”text-align: left;”>If Anitta is invited I hope it’s to sing something else but Envolver because this song requires body performance and ends up disturbing the voice and at the Grammy everything needs to be perfect since it can’t use base. If Bad Bunny has no way to perform they will certainly want to have that dose of Latin music on the show and will include Rosália in that too.</p>
ReplyCopy URLNovember 19, 2022 at 8:08 pm #1205160724<p style=”text-align: left;”>If Anitta is invited I hope it’s to sing something else but Envolver because this song requires body performance and ends up disturbing the voice and at the Grammy everything needs to be perfect since it can’t use base. If Bad Bunny has no way to perform they will certainly want to have that dose of Latin music on the show and will include Rosália in that too.</p>
Rosalia’s music is FLAMENCO not Latin. Not all Spanish music is Latin, can y’all stop conflating things?
Latin = Latin America
Hispanic = Spanish speaking
Flamenco music is quintessentially Spanish, as in from Spain. As in EUROPE. She has some collabs with Latin artists that are more reggaeton leaning, but it’d be like saying that Dua Lipa will bring in the hip hop because of her hip hop features.
November 19, 2022 at 8:54 pm #1205160742I think Harry, Beyoncé, Bad Bunny and Brandi are almost certain. Hoping to see Kendrick too! And I’m sure they would love a Coldplay + BTS performance.
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November 19, 2022 at 9:56 pm #1205160756Rosalia’s music is FLAMENCO not Latin. Not all Spanish music is Latin, can y’all stop conflating things? Latin = Latin America Hispanic = Spanish speaking Flamenco music is quintessentially Spanish, as in from Spain. As in EUROPE. She has some collabs with Latin artists that are more reggaeton leaning, but it’d be like saying that Dua Lipa will bring in the hip hop because of her hip hop features.
when she won album of the year at the latin grammy she thanks latin america for inspiring her music……
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 9:14 am #1205161066Not performers related, but who is hosting this year?
Probably Trevor Noah again.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 3:28 pm #1205161675when she won album of the year at the latin grammy she thanks latin america for inspiring her music……
She cans say whatever she wants, her music is still European and she’s not Latina nor would her performing at the Grammys be Latin representation. The fact that European acts are nominated and awarded at the Latin Grammys is disrespectful in and of itself.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 3:31 pm #1205161678Rosalia’s music is FLAMENCO not Latin. Not all Spanish music is Latin, can y’all stop conflating things?
Latin = Latin America
Hispanic = Spanish speaking
Flamenco music is quintessentially Spanish, as in from Spain. As in EUROPE. She has some collabs with Latin artists that are more reggaeton leaning, but it’d be like saying that Dua Lipa will bring in the hip hop because of her hip hop features.
I mean, what was the last Rosalía single that was described as “flamenco” in any way? “Juro que”? That was like 2 years ago…
Meanwhile, all the singles from MOTOMAMI so far have been categorized as some type of Latin rhythm — whether it’s reggaeton, bachata, or merengue. And since she’d be promoting that album and not El Mal Querer, I don’t really see what the problem is with saying she’d be adding a “dose of Latin music” to the show.
It’s not like we can’t say MGK does pop-punk just because his first 4 albums were hip-hop. Or like the existence of “Whip My Hair” prevents Willow from being called anything but a “pop singer.”
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 4:10 pm #1205161713Adele – “Easy On Me”
Sam Smith and Kim Petras – “Unholy”
Gayle – “abcdefu”
Lizzo and SZA – “About Damn Time”, “Special (Remix)”
Jack Harlow – “First Class”
Beyoncé – “I’m That Girl”, “Alien Superstar”, “Cuff It”, “Break My Soul”
Anitta – “Envolver”
Latto – “Big Energy”
Måneskin – “The Loneliest”
Mary J. Blige – “Good Morning Gorgeous”
Harry Styles – “Music for a Sushi Restaurant”, “As It Was”, “Late Night Talking”
Brandi Carlile and Lucius – “You and Me On The Rock”
Bad Bunny – “Moscow Mule”
In Memoriam
Future and Tems – “Wait For U”
Ozzy Osbourne – “Patient Number 9”, “Degradation Rules”
Steve Lacy – “Bad Habit”
Maren Morris – “Circles Around This Town”
Luke Combs and Miranda Lambert – “Doin’ This”, “Outrunnin’ Your Memory”
David Guetta and Bebe Rexha – “I’m Good (Blue)”Presenters:
Viola Davis
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Smokey Robinson
Berry Gordy
Sharon Osbourne
Kelly Clarkson
Olivia Rodrigo
Machine Gun Kelly
Halle Bailey
Billie Porter
Meghan Trainor
Sebastian Yatra
Eiza GonzalezNovember 20, 2022 at 5:40 pm #1205161804I mean, what was the last Rosalía single that was described as “flamenco” in any way? “Juro que”? That was like 2 years ago… Meanwhile, all the singles from MOTOMAMI so far have been categorized as some type of Latin rhythm — whether it’s reggaeton, bachata, or merengue. And since she’d be promoting that album and not El Mal Querer, I don’t really see what the problem is with saying she’d be adding a “dose of Latin music” to the show. It’s not like we can’t say MGK does pop-punk just because his first 4 albums were hip-hop. Or like the existence of “Whip My Hair” prevents Willow from being called anything but a “pop singer.”
Well, I mean, the GRAMMYS didn’t nominate her under the typical reggaetón genre, so maybe take it out with them? She’s nominated under “Latin ROCK OR ALTERNATIVE” (the Grammys have been using “Latin” as a catch all word for all Spanish+Portuguese speaking countries regardless of them being Latin or not, just like they used “urban” as a catch all word for “of color/black”)
Have you listened to the other albums nominated alongside MOTOMAMI?
Does this sound like reggaetón to you?
How about this?
Like?
Anyways… actual reggaetón albums are nominated under “Música Urbana”
Farruko, Bad Bunny, Rauw Alejandro, Maluma and… the modern daddy of mainstream reggaetón Daddy Yankee.
But regardless of all that, because you can pull out articles (but I’ll argue that the Grammys themselves describing her music as Rock/Alternative trumps anything you can show me), it doesn’t matter what she sounds like, she still ain’t Latina, because she’s European.
I don’t think the Grammys care, let’s make that clear, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay.
Rosalía wouldn’t be “Latin representation” even if she performed Atrévete-Te-Te alongside Wisin & Yandel, wearing a sombrero, sipping on mate, and eating ajiaco. And even then, the Grammys themselves don’t consider her music “Latin inspired”, just rock/alternative… in Spanish.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 8:19 pm #1205162148Well, I mean, the GRAMMYS didn’t nominate her under the typical reggaetón genre, so maybe take it out with them? She’s nominated under “Latin ROCK OR ALTERNATIVE” (the Grammys have been using “Latin” as a catch all word for all Spanish+Portuguese speaking countries regardless of them being Latin or not, just like they used “urban” as a catch all word for “of color/black”)
Have you listened to the other albums nominated alongside MOTOMAMI?
Does this sound like reggaetón to you?
How about this?
Like?
Anyways… actual reggaetón albums are nominated under “Música Urbana”
Farruko, Bad Bunny, Rauw Alejandro, Maluma and… the modern daddy of mainstream reggaetón Daddy Yankee.
But regardless of all that, because you can pull out articles (but I’ll argue that the Grammys themselves describing her music as Rock/Alternative trumps anything you can show me), it doesn’t matter what she sounds like, she still ain’t Latina, because she’s European.
I don’t think the Grammys care, let’s make that clear, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay.
Rosalía wouldn’t be “Latin representation” even if she performed Atrévete-Te-Te alongside Wisin & Yandel, wearing a sombrero, sipping on mate, and eating ajiaco. And even then, the Grammys themselves don’t consider her music “Latin inspired”, just rock/alternative… in Spanish.
I mean, I don’t know why I need to “take it” with the Academy when I don’t have a problem with Rosalía’s album being categorized as “LATIN Rock/Alternative.” I’m not the one saying or implying that artists who are nominated for that category are seen by the Grammys as not really doing “Latin music” but rather “just rock/alternative… in Spanish” — which is honestly very dismissive of the creative Latin fusions that recent nominees like Flor de Toloache, Lido Pimienta, Bajofondo, Orishas, etc., have been making.
But also, I don’t really see what that all has to do with your original statement (that Rosalía’s genre is “FLAMENCO”), which you posted to bellyache about someone else saying that she would add a “dose of Latin music” with her performance.
All I said was that all the singles from MOTOMAMI so far (which are likely what she would perform) have been categorized under a variety of Latin genres and NONE have been flamenco. So yes, her performance would add a dose of Latin music to the ceremony — and this has nothing to do with whether she should be considered “Latina;” it’s just because of the music itself.
So before you try to move the goalpost AGAIN, can you explain WHY her performances wouldn’t count as Latin music? Is it just that she’s from Spain? And if it’s not Latin music, then what is it? Because a bachata-inspired song like “La fama” sure as hell isn’t FLAMENCO…
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 10:35 pm #1205162280I mean, I don’t know why I need to “take it” with the Academy when I don’t have a problem with Rosalía’s album being categorized as “LATIN Rock/Alternative.” I’m not the one saying or implying that artists who are nominated for that category are seen by the Grammys as not really doing “Latin music” but rather “just rock/alternative… in Spanish” — which is honestly very dismissive of the creative Latin fusions that recent nominees like Flor de Toloache, Lido Pimienta, Bajofondo, Orishas, etc., have been making. But also, I don’t really see what that all has to do with your original statement (that Rosalía’s genre is “FLAMENCO”), which you posted to bellyache about someone else saying that she would add a “dose of Latin music” with her performance. All I said was that all the singles from MOTOMAMI so far (which are likely what she would perform) have been categorized under a variety of Latin genres and NONE have been flamenco. So yes, her performance would add a dose of Latin music to the ceremony — and this has nothing to do with whether she should be considered “Latina;” it’s just because of the music itself. So before you try to move the goalpost AGAIN, can you explain WHY her performances wouldn’t count as Latin music? Is it just that she’s from Spain? And if it’s not Latin music, then what is it? Because a bachata-inspired song like “La fama” sure as hell isn’t FLAMENCO…
SHE
IS
EUROPEAN
She CANNOT make Latin music because SHE IS NOT LATINA.
LATIN MUSIC ISN’T A GENRE. Latin is an ethnicity. Latin people make as many genres of music as any other ethnicity. None of those genres fit Rosalía because
SHE
IS
NOT
LATINA
There’s also a category for “Latin Jazz” ffs. Considering the fact that you estás discutiendo sobre quién puede ser latino con una persona que es literalmente latina, nacida y crecida, maybe cierra el hocico.
Rosalía C A N N O T be “Latin representation” I can’t explain this any clearer than I already did. I’m blocking you.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 20, 2022 at 11:05 pm #1205162305The Rosalía discourse is boring as fuck. People like Alejandro Sanz, Laura Pausini, Enrique Iglesias o C. Tangana are European too and nobody says nothing when they win latin categories. You all are just Rosalía’s haters. And why are you talking about this in this thread?
ReplyCopy URLNovember 21, 2022 at 4:22 am #1205162412SHE
IS
EUROPEAN
She CANNOT make Latin music because SHE IS NOT LATINA.
LATIN MUSIC ISN’T A GENRE. Latin is an ethnicity. Latin people make as many genres of music as any other ethnicity. None of those genres fit Rosalía because
SHE
IS
NOT
LATINA
There’s also a category for “Latin Jazz” ffs. Considering the fact that you estás discutiendo sobre quién puede ser latino con una persona que es literalmente latina, nacida y crecida, maybe cierra el hocico.
Rosalía C A N N O T be “Latin representation” I can’t explain this any clearer than I already did. I’m blocking you.
You are blocking Andresg777, one of the most unproblematic posters and one of the few posters who aren’t condescending about his opinions? It’s a valid discussion. You are so dramatic. Lol
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