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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.Its true, Beyoncé came very close to winning AOTY with Sasha Fierce. She defeated Taylor Swift in SOTY and female pop performance, as well as sweeping her field. In the year of Lemonade she probably also came in at #2, but Adele must have won by a large margin. Self-titled must have been at #3, behind Sam Smith.
Its true, Beyoncé came very close to winning AOTY with Sasha Fierce. She defeated Taylor Swift in SOTY and female pop performance, as well as sweeping her field. In the year of Lemonade she probably also came in at #2, but Adele must have won by a large margin. Self-titled must have been at #3, behind Sam Smith.
Pharrell was 2nd that year.
Quinta Brunson 1st and 2nd emmy campaign manager
Bill Hader 4th, 5th and 6th emmy campaign manager
Jeremy Strong 2nd emmy campaign manager
Zendaya 2nd and 3rd emmy campaign managerIts true, Beyoncé came very close to winning AOTY with Sasha Fierce. She defeated Taylor Swift in SOTY and female pop performance, as well as sweeping her field. In the year of Lemonade she probably also came in at #2, but Adele must have won by a large margin. Self-titled must have been at #3, behind Sam Smith.
Pharrell was 2nd that year.
How do you guys know who came in 2nd-3rd in AOTY voting?
I’d be VERY interested to know who came in 2nd for a few years. Specifically 2016, 2018, and 2020
How do you guys know who came in 2nd-3rd in AOTY voting?
I’d be VERY interested to know who came in 2nd for a few years. Specifically 2016, 2018, and 2020
Its just guesswork. Pharrell beat Sam in pop solo and Bey in urban contemporary that year so it’s pretty reasonable to assume he was 2nd.
Quinta Brunson 1st and 2nd emmy campaign manager
Bill Hader 4th, 5th and 6th emmy campaign manager
Jeremy Strong 2nd emmy campaign manager
Zendaya 2nd and 3rd emmy campaign managerThe fact we could have Adele, Beyoncé, Harry, Kendrick, Silk Sonic and SZA for AOTY all in the same year is insane.
Pharrell was def 2nd, he beat both Sam and Beyoncé in their fields. My best guess is that Beyoncé was 4th that year.
if beyonce releases i think that just kinda grants adele her win (as if she wasn’t winning already lol), unless the album has massive cross genre appeal
Honey, we’ve been through this a billion times. All voters do NOT vote in every field. Pharrell Williams beating Sam Smith in Best Pop Solo Performance and Beyoncé in Best Urban Contemporary Album means nothing when it comes to placements in Album of the Year.
That explains Arcade Fire losing Best Alternative Music Album and Mumford & Sons losing Best Americana Album. Yet, both acts won Album of the Year. “Dance With My Father” won Song of the Year, but lost Best R&B Song. There are quite a few examples of this.
I still think Adele will pull off the win for AOTY but adding Beyoncé to the mix makes things more interesting.
Pharrell was def 2nd, he beat both Sam and Beyoncé in their fields. My best guess is that Beyoncé was 4th that year.
Honestly that year was so weird I wouldn’t even be surprised if she was last. Lol
Honey, we’ve been through this a billion times. All voters do NOT vote in every field. Pharrell Williams beating Sam Smith in Best Pop Solo Performance and Beyoncé in Best Urban Contemporary Album means nothing when it comes to placements in Album of the Year.
That explains Arcade Fire losing Best Alternative Music Album and Mumford & Sons losing Best Americana Album. Yet, both acts won Album of the Year. “Dance With My Father” won Song of the Year, but lost Best R&B Song. There are quite a few examples of this.
Those scenarios aren’t the same. Pharrell beat two artists nominated in AOTY. Arcade Fire, Mumford & Sons and Luther lost to artists not nominated in AOTY or SOTY.
While I agree that we can’t assume that Pharrell was ahead of Sam Smith or Beyoncé in AOTY that year, I find it hard to believe that songwriters, producers and engineers didn’t prefer Pharrell over them, especially if pop voters and R&B voters favored him in the genre categories. There was no reason for a Grammy favorite in the R&B field to lose to him, or for him to win for a crappy live version of his hit song over the ROTY/SOTY winner that year. Pharrell was having a moment during and after “Get Lucky.”
Realistically, I think Sam Smith came in second place after winning ROTY, SOTY and BNA, but Beyoncé, Pharrell and even Ed Sheeran were interchangeable.
I think Beyonce was a distant 3rd at best because of the momentum she had and vast amount of acclaim, but Self-Titled being as dark and sexual as it was probably turned a handful of voters off. The surprise release gimmick most likely wore off since it was a whole year later. Pharrell makes sense as a runner up in hindsight.
Lemonade was closer to AOTY simply cause of the passion behind it but 25 was far out.
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