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    Was anyone else as shocked as I was the night Adele Announced “Babel” as the winners for Album of the Year? I remember watching the pre-telecast and The Black Keys we’re sweeping every category they were up for. They beat Mumford and Sons in every category the two bands were up against. I remember this forum went absolutely insane! I feel like that was the most surprising win of the last decade. As far as AOTY goes. What do you guys think contributed to Mumford and Sons upset? Also how would you rank the nominees that year and who do you think came in second and third, etc.

    1. Babel – Mumford and Sons
    2. El Camino – The Black Keys
    3. Channel Orange – Frank Ocean
    4. Blunderbuss – Jack White
    5. Some Nights – fun.

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    Honey, the correct question is… How in the Jessica Simpson did Babel beat Channel Orange?

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    Honey, the correct question is… How in the Jessica Simpson did Babel beat Channel Orange?

    Say it louder for the people in the back!!!!! Gucci your mind!

    FYC:
    AOTY: Fetch the Bolt Cutters or After Hours
    ROTY & SOTY: Blinding Lights & Don’t Start Now
    BNA: Megan Thee Stallion or Rina Sawayama
    Rap Album: RTJ4
    Pop Album: SAWAYAMA
    Rock Album: The New Abnormal
    R&B Performance: Do It

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    Commercial success, familiarity and recency won. Babel was released right before cutoff.

    Not really an upset.

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    El Camino and Channel Orange are both fantastic albums. They would’ve been my No.1 and No.2. First Channel Orange, then El Camino. Either one would have been a great choice. Since I’m picking Channel Orange, I’d give The Black Keys ROTY,  not only because “Lonely Boy” is a fantastic song, but also as a makeup award for missing out on the big one.

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    Commercial success, familiarity and recency won. Babel was released right before cutoff.

    Not really an upset.

    I agree.

    But the question is How did Babel beat 3 rock/alternative acts without split the votes in favor of Channel Orange.

    I love Mumford and Sons but “El Camino” must have won that night.

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    You can say comercial success all you want but El Camino had impact and success of its own. That album was huge.

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    The real question is how did Babel win AOTY when it lost its genre category.

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    “Babel” feels like the safest album in this lineup. Its win isn’t that upsetting or surprising.

    However, The Black Keys or Frank Ocean would’ve made a better winner.

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    Mumford and Sons

    Best Americana Album

    Bonnie Raitt Slipstream – WINNER
    The Avett Brothers – The Carpenter
    John Fullbright – From the Ground Up
    The Lumineers – The Lumineers
    Mumford & Sons – Babel

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    Mumford & Sons’ first album was a sleeper smash and Babel was an instant blockbuster. They were huge in the early 2010s. It really wasn’t a surprise win at all.

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    The real question is how did Babel win AOTY when it lost its genre category.

    Well first of all, they lost Americana Album to an album that wasn’t nominated in AOTY, just like The Suburbs losing Alternative Album, so there’s the argument to be made that Bonnie Raitt (and the Black Keys 2 years earlier) could have been competitive for AOTY wins had they been nominated.

    There’s also the possibility that people voting in the Americana categories felt that M&S didn’t belong there and should have been slotted in rock, and/or that they wanted to support an underdog instead of the commercial giants.

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    You can say comercial success all you want but El Camino had impact and success of its own. That album was huge.

    Yes, but Babel was bigger. It also had a pop crossover hit unlike El Camino.

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    The album was huge at the time. People don’t love them now, but at the time they had a huge following and it was really more surprising that they lost their other categories. El Camino stood the test of time, but Babel was the favourite that year.

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    The album that has the most support from alternative voters is often too alternative to do well in the GF. El Camino is poppy and accessible but not to the same extent as Babel. Babel competed in Alternative, but it got most of its support from top 40/pop voters who didn’t vote in the alternative category.

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