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If Beyonce’s “Single Ladies” had been submitted for ROTY would it have Won?

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    Jason Travis
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    Beyonce’s “Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It)” Was literally ‘the anthem’ for 2009/10 in music. I remember being preplexed when the tune was entered in the Song of the Year race, but NOT Record of the Year; instead, “Halo” was submitted- and nominated.

    Do you think if “Single Ladies” had been submitted for ROTY instead of “Halo”, it would have won instead of “Use Somebody”? Or would the voters (who usually are conservative with this category) had stuck to the same ol’, same ol’.

    Keep in mind- “Single Ladies” ended up WINNING Song of the Year  – to many people’s surprise, meaning it was much more popular then expected. Is it unusual for a track to win or prevail in Song, and not even be nodded in Record?

    I think “Single” should have been the submitted track and not “Halo”.

    BTW- this was one of the strongest ROTY fields we have had, IMO.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    I’m 50-50 on this. Always have been. Hey, at least I didn’t say NO! which is what most people will answer. 

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    My guess is no. The reason KOL won that was the rest of the nominee were all pop oriented. (plus the fact that KOL song was so huge hits for a rock song these days)

    ROTY voters usually don’t go urban (even more than SOTY these days) and Single Ladies was hits, but actually it is less hit than Poker Face, I Gotta Feeling at that time.
    I can give you some cultural impact bonus, but not enough to overtake KOL. 

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    Alex Bustillos
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    wow… didn’t remember Single Ladies won that Grammy.

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    No.

    There is a huge bias in ROTY for R&B and Rap/Hip-Hop records.  They prefer live instrumentation in ROTY.  NARAS likes to reward those genres in SOTY.

    “Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It)” should have been submitted to ROTY instead of “Halo.”  That was not a smart move on the label’s part.  I did see what the label was going for by submitting only “Halo” to ROTY.

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    Baby Clyde
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    Single Ladies would have a made a perfectly decent ROTY winner.

    It’s SOTY is one of the biggest jokes in Grammy history.

    ‘Got me tighter than my Dereon jeans’ indeed.

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    I’m not sure if whether or not Single Ladies would’ve had a better chance at winning ROTY, or if Halo would’ve had just as much a chance at winning SOTY.

    I think Beyoncé and her team should’ve submitted the same song for both.

    I can’t believe this is the only time time she’s won in the General Field though.

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    The fact that it won SOTY says everything when it’s nothing like SOTY material. it was biggest.

    only difference on nominee was SOTY had maxwell(R&B) and ROTY had BEP(POP).

    Maxwell can steal Single Ladies’s vote way more than BEP could yet SL won it.

    so Single Ladies would have bigger vote in ROTY than SOTY.

    the reality is the voeters doesn’t care about assignment. they usually vote for 1 biggest song for both category.

     

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    It won SOTY over “Use Somebody”. There hasn’t been a scenario where Song A wins over Song B in Song, but then loses to Song B in Record (or the reverse) in modern Grammy history (as far back as the early 90s).

    It would’ve easily won.

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    I don’t know about that. People bring up the fact that SL won SOTY over “Use Somebody,” but it is also worth noting that a huge trend that hadn’t been broken until recently was that the ROTY winner always contained live instrumentation. I remember how easy it used to be to predict the winner of ROTY vs any other category. “Live instrumentation” would always be brought up in the ROTY conversation. I think “Single Ladies” would have been more competitive than “Halo,” but I also think Columbia knew about that trend. While “Halo” wasn’t a song with live instrumentation, it is closer to past winners than “Single Ladies.” I understand their strategy now.

    EDIT: Just realized that this is a very old thread. But HEY at Gucci bringing up “live instrumentation.”

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    It’s clear grammy voters are lazy and always want to award the same song in both categories and they only differ when their pick is nominated in one category, like they would’ve given ROTY to “I Can’t Breathe” this year, if it would’ve been nominated there.

    Without the BRP, ROTY and SOTY will hardy differ, even less if you also consider that sampled songs are eligible in SOTY, which didn’t happen before 1995 as far as I know.

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    Single Ladies swept its genre categories and I’m sure if it was submitted to Music Video (and nominated), it would’ve won that as well. The fact that it won a tight category like that showed how extremely strong it was and how much broad appeal it had. Voters are also lazy so they would’ve checked it off in ROTY.

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    Single Ladies swept its genre categories and I’m sure if it was submitted to Music Video (and nominated), it would’ve won that as well. The fact that it won a tight category like that showed how extremely strong it was and how much broad appeal it had. Voters are also lazy so they would’ve checked it off in ROTY.

    What song did she submit for music video? Kinda bizarre not being Single Ladies since the video made it so iconic and won multiple VMAs including VOTY and Direction

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    What song did she submit for music video? Kinda bizarre not being Single Ladies since the video made it so iconic and won multiple VMAs including VOTY and Direction

    “Halo” or “If I Were A Boy” (?)

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