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    Not falling for this clickbait, and certainly not reading this nonsense until next February.

    Well geez..thanks for you kind words regardiny my first article.  “Clickbait” and “nonsense” was not my intention, rather having a discussion about Beyonce’s chances.  Just because the sentiments do not agree with your personal prediction, does not mean it is nonsense and should be dismissed as such.   I suppose we should all just agree that Beyonce is going to win AOTY and not even discuss it anymore, eh?   

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    He is always so dramatic.  Why even click on the thread?

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    [quote=”Atypical”] Not falling for this clickbait, and certainly not reading this nonsense until next February.

    Well geez..thanks for you kind words regardiny my first article.  “Clickbait” and “nonsense” was not my intention, rather having a discussion about Beyonce’s chances.  Just because the sentiments do not agree with your personal prediction, does not mean it is nonsense and should be dismissed as such.   I suppose we should all just agree that Beyonce is going to win AOTY and not even discuss it anymore, eh?   [/quote]

    I agree with a lot of the points you made but I feel like you wrote the article in a way that felt amateur-ish. But I wouldn’t do it any better so good for you! I still stand by my point for now but what do I know anyways?

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    While I don’t agree with every point Troy made and sense a bit of bias here and there, I think it was a well-written article. Not everyone is going to agree with every prediction. He is right. The same ones saying that Beyonce is a lock and that ‘their opinion is not changing!” are also some of the same ones who were bent out of shape when some were against the idea of Justin Timberlake sweeping for “Mirrors” and The 20/20 Experience. Look at what happened there. I still believe Beyonce will get nominated and win it all, but Troy is entitled to feel the way he feels and his opinion shouldn’t be dismissed because it’s not the consensus.

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    I’m glad Troy is opening it all up for discussion! It’ll be a pretty boring few months if we’re all in unanimous agreement that Beyonce would win AOTY. I personally think it’s ridiuclous that we’re talking about winning when we won’t even see nominations until early December. For all we know, she could be snubbed and then all of this conversation will have gone to waste!

    I personally believe Beyonce has everything going for her to at least garner an AOTY nomination, and she, along with Jack White, are the 2 frontrunners. But that doesn’t mean NARAS voters will see it them same way. History shows that they don’t always align with pop culture.

    I’m tired of hearing the same cons over and over again (urban bias, not really ‘due’ for a nomination’, no hit single). I’m also tired of hearing the same pros (best album of her career, world’s biggest pop star, cultural dominance). Let’s just wait this out and see the nominations in the first place. I’d rather discuss who the other contenders are because I think that’s a more interesting conversation.

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    I wasn’t bent out of shape over anything last year. I thought that JT earned his general field nominations that he didn’t receive, but whatever, snubs happen. But this talking point of “Beyonce is losing, you guyyyys!” has been going on for weeks now, and it’s clickbait at its finest. We’ll see the outcome when we see the outcome, so next.

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    Actually, nobody has stated “Beyonce is losing” at all, particularly me.   Stating she is not a lock to win is not saying she is going to lose.  Please show me a thread that states Beyonce is going to lose; we have had a few pop up about how she is lock to win, but I haven’t seen any of the opposite.   I even stated at the end of the article that she could very well win.   And the talking points of “Beyonce is winning, you guyyssss!” has been going on even longer.   Like I said, apparently ideas contrary to this belief are nonsense.   It’s not clickbait–it’s discussion.   

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    Why are ya’ll coming at Troy’s neck? Let him have his opinion and keep it moving. If he’s right, he’s right. If he’s wrong, he’s wrong.

    Thanks.  I can handle criticism–obviously anytime you put your writing or any work out there, you are an open target.   But simply dismissing the article as clickbait and nonsense because it doesn’t suit your particular opinion seems a tad harsh.   

    One thing that has been needed for a long time in this forum is an openness to others opinions without the snarky, dismissive comments, and personal attacks that have severaly hindered this forum for quite a long time now.  Several people stopped posting in the Grammy forum because of the nastiness that permeated it.  Sure, I have been guilty of them myself, but I am beyond that now and my goal as a moderator is cultivate this Grammy forum into one full of meaningful discussion and friendly debates.  Let’s all work a little harder and being a tad more respectful, losing any chips we may have on our shoulders, and discuss the Grammys and our love for music in a kind, engaging manner.  

     

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    As I said in the email great job on the article Troy! But I knew it was gonna piss some posters off lol! That’s why I’m carefully wording my article.

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    Beyoncé is still the AOTY frontrunner until a single more viable option presents itself. I don’t see what that is yet. It’s another story of course if the BRP snubs her, but just about all the other major contenders cited have their cons (at least one), and Beyoncé’s pros have been cited many times before elsewhere which outweigh her cons. I’m keeping her in my AOTY predictions as well as maintaining frontrunner status. Not falling for this clickbait, and certainly not reading this nonsense until next February.

     

    This tbh. The article is essentially clickbait and an effort to rouse some much needed discussion and fervor around the Grammy forum. Good for the editor(s), though, because they’re kinda achieving that, although their intentions are incredibly transparent.

    As for the actual content of the article– again, I would say I completely disagree. I’m not even gonna waste time giving a point-by-point rebuttal because the writer is quite biased and the article seems more like wishful thinking than an actual analysis of the AOTY race.

     

    I mean, just a few months ago….

    Oh god.  I truly hope Beyonce does NOT win Album of the Year.

    Troy just doesn’t like Beyonce, period. And that’s not a problem at all, but for people who follow the Grammys closely, I think we definitely deserve an unbiased and objective look at this year’s AOTY race, arguably the Grammys most significant category. Like I said before, the article is more wishful thinking than anything else.

    But once again, thanks, Tom and Troy for trying to generate some discussion!

     

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    Actually simply because I say I don’t want Beyonce to win AOTY, does not mean I do not like her.  You know you can actually like someone without believing they are worthy of every accolade thrown to them. I am a huge Lady Gaga fan, yet didn’t think she should have won AOTY for any of her albums.  I own all of Beyonce’s albums and if you dig even deeper into my past posts, you will find the one where I stated that “Partition” is one of my favorite songs of the year.  It could be that I truly do not feel “Beyonce” is an album worthy of an AOTY win, and I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibilty that a portion of Grammy voters large enough to hinder her win could feel the same way.   However, I also stated that should very possibly could win.  But calling my points in the article “wishful thinking” at a point in time when the Grammy nominees have not even been announced also illustrates a hint of bias, considering (though it may be very slight) that the Blue Ribbon Panel doesn’t even nominate the album.  Who knows what will happen?  That is why we are all simply speculating at this point.

    And for some posters, it seems an “unbiased” and “objective” look at the AOTY is declaring Beyonce the lock for the win and dare not mentioning any other possibility or scenario.

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    Actually simply because I say I don’t want Beyonce to win AOTY, does not mean I do not like her.  You know you can actually like someone without believing they are worthy of every accolade thrown to them. I am a huge Lady Gaga fan, yet didn’t think she should have won AOTY for any of her albums.  I own all of Beyonce’s albums and if you dig even deeper into my past posts, you will find the one where I stated that “Partition” is one of my favorite songs of the year.  It could be that I truly do not feel “Beyonce” is an album worthy of an AOTY win, and I don’t think it is beyond the realm of possibilty that a portion of Grammy voters large enough to hinder her win could feel the same way.   However, I also stated that should very possibly could win.  But calling my points in the article “wishful thinking” at a point in time when the Grammy nominees have not even been announced also illustrates a hint of bias, considering (though it may be very slight) that the Blue Ribbon Panel doesn’t even nominate the album.  Who knows what will happen?  That is why we are all simply speculating at this point.

    And for some posters, it seems an “unbiased” and “objective” look at the AOTY is declaring Beyonce the lock for the win and dare not mentioning any other possibility or scenario.

    I’ve been following Goldderby for a very, very long time and was a very active poster before the forum relaunch– I’m well aware of your post history lol.

    And considering Beyonce as a frontrunner isn’t a hint of bias, it’s a hint of knowing what you’re talking about, honestly. There are very few other viable contenders for AOTY this year. I truly don’t believe that you even believe what you’re saying right now.

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    I am not so sure why this is so difficult for some to understand: stating that Beyonce is not an 100% absolute lock to win AOTY is NOT the same as stating she is not the frontrunner.  She’s in my predictions.  She has a lot of things going for her.  However, to be so absolutely sold on the fact that she is IS going win, no questions asked, no discussion needed, no other possibilities need presented is foolish.  

    And I’d be careful about your snarky comments.  I have been following the Grammys for a long, long time.  I know their history.  I believe what I am saying; to suggest otherwise simply because I am not shouting “Beyonce is a LOCK to win AOTY!” is riduculous.

    Let me say this: you’re point has been taken.  Let’s move on. 

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    This topic is a bit ridiculous.

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