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    Grammys have 0 credibility but this is a rule. If someone is credited over 33 percent of album he/she will win one.Has nothing to do with their credibility but at the same time they should do something like Oscars where max 4 ppl can win original song award. Whoever contributed very less should get chucked out.

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    Grammys have 0 credibility but this is a rule. If someone is credited over 33 percent of album he/she will win one.Has nothing to do with their credibility but at the same time they should do something like Oscars where max 4 ppl can win original song award. Whoever contributed very less should get chucked out.

    The problem is Joe probably did not actually produce the songs.

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    Beyoncé making her daughter a Grammy winner and Taylor doing the same with her boyfriend! Humble queens!

    FYC: Grammys 2022

    AOTY: evermore
    ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo: willow
    Pop Album: evermore
    Pop Duo: evermore w Bon Iver
    Rap Song/ Melodic Rap: closure
    Dance Recording: long story short
    Remix Recording: Love Story (elvira)
    Country Solo/Country Song: cowboy like me
    Country Duo: You All Over Me w Marren Morris
    American Roots Perf/Song: ivy
    Gospel Per: epiphany (live)
    Rock Perf/Song: ‘tis the damn season
    Music Video: willow
    Music Film: folklore studio sessions

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    The problem is Joe probably did not actually produce the songs.

    Not probably , he definitely did not else he would be credited from the get go/evermore’s credits would get updated too. But we regularly see artists not involved in songwriting get credited and win Grammys/get noms. Unless Aaron/Jack mind, we shouldn’t care.

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    Not probably , he definitely did not else he would be credited from the get go/evermore’s credits would get updated too. But we regularly see artists not involved in songwriting get credited and win Grammys/get noms. Unless Aaron/Jack mind, we shouldn’t care.

    Milli Vanilli were credited too, but people cared about that.

    Edit: can you give example of those artists not involved in songwriting (but credited) winning AOTY, which many consider to be the highest award?

    But perhaps you’re right, why care? Why should an artist release multiple acclaimed albums and submit them to the Grammys like Björk, and never win, or like Mtski who has never been nominated?

    Or David Bowie who never won for his music during his lifetime?

    Why should The Weeknd ever come back even if he has another huge song like Blinding Lights, when a far easier way to win is to be the partner or family member of another famous artist?

    Why should anyone other than huge celebrities care about the Grammys?

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    Milli Vanilli were credited too, but people cared about that. Edit: can you give example of those artists not involved in songwriting (but credited) winning AOTY, which many consider to be the highest award? But perhaps you’re right, why care? Why should an artist release multiple acclaimed albums and submit them to the Grammys like Björk, and never win, or like Mtski who has never been nominated? Or David Bowie who never won for his music during his lifetime? Why should The Weeknd ever come back even if he has another huge song like Blinding Lights, when a far easier way to win is to be the partner or family member of another famous artist? Why should anyone other than huge celebrities care about the Grammys?

    Songwriters are complaining big stars force a way into writing credits. Not gonna name names to avoid fanwars here but quite popular names have credits on songs that sound exactly same as the original demo.
    I don’t think Joe should have won. But they credited him, the co-producers and writers are fine with it. Multiple artists are credited without changing a word or tune on the song. Unless grammys come up with some strict rules to track who actually contributed,We can’t do anything about it. Just hope she doesn’t regret this in future but whatever.

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    It’s funny, but also a bit wrong. Especially since recently we had a movement by some popular songwriters asking to stop messing with credits.

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    Songwriters are complaining big stars force a way into writing credits. Not gonna name names to avoid fanwars here but quite popular names have credits on songs that sound exactly same as the original demo.

    Just name them, I’m sure we already know who most of them are. We all know ‘Closer’ was a demo with a female artist, before Halsey got to “co-write”. I’m sure I’ve heard some of the others but forget the names. Which Grammys did they win? Did any win AOTY?

    But they credited him, the co-producers and writers are fine with it.

    As explained before, the co-writing percentages don’t change and the producers already got paid.

    Plus they want to keep getting work with Taylor, because their share of songwriting income from Taylor’s albums probably pays much better than most of their other clients and their own projects.

    We can’t do anything about it.

    We can stop taking the Grammys so seriously. AOTY just became barely more credible than the teen choice awards. Just another celebrity award.

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    We can stop taking the Grammys so seriously. AOTY just became barely more credible than the teen choice awards. Just another celebrity award.

    I really doubt Joe alwyn winning one somehow made grammys teen choice. Grammys are not credible but this one incident does not change anything because Grammys did not change their rules to accomodate Taylor.  Colbie won an aoty grammy for fearless for barely audible vocals one song. That did not take away aoty’s credibility.

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    Some people have morals

    lots of frauds going on in this business, like people be making millions thanks to payola, scooter literally has business with spotify and homegirl wanted her unemployed boyfriend to get grammy is not hurting anyone pls

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    No matter what y’all think, it’s her Grammy, she Jack and Aaron can give credit to whomever the hell they want, period. This doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s an excellent album and that she won her Grammy fair and square. There were 7 credited producers on 21 and 10 on 25. So what gives? Y’all can’t prove whether joe produced or not, so stop wasting your time on this.

    FYC: Grammys 2022

    AOTY: evermore
    ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo: willow
    Pop Album: evermore
    Pop Duo: evermore w Bon Iver
    Rap Song/ Melodic Rap: closure
    Dance Recording: long story short
    Remix Recording: Love Story (elvira)
    Country Solo/Country Song: cowboy like me
    Country Duo: You All Over Me w Marren Morris
    American Roots Perf/Song: ivy
    Gospel Per: epiphany (live)
    Rock Perf/Song: ‘tis the damn season
    Music Video: willow
    Music Film: folklore studio sessions

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