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    I’ve never been into Bieber at all, but I’ve got to say Justice is not getting the credit it deserves, and I can’t think of any other explanation than a bias against him – I suppose critics are worried giving a Justin Bieber album a good rating would make them look uncool. This is a rock solid pop album and should be acknowledged as such.

    Not really…ed Sheeran gets terrible ratings after making one of the biggest pop albums..critics don’t like generic songs made for radio..and Justin’s album is full of those. General public will like it.

    Also the mlk part was a bit idiotic…there was 0 need to add it.

     

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    I’ve never been into Bieber at all, but I’ve got to say Justice is not getting the credit it deserves, and I can’t think of any other explanation than a bias against him – I suppose critics are worried giving a Justin Bieber album a good rating would make them look uncool. This is a rock solid pop album and should be acknowledged as such.

    It’s probably due to the fact that it has nothing to do with the “Justice” theme as promised on the tin and by Justin himself. Some critics have agreed consistently that adding a Martin Luther King Jr sample layer on a song about JB’s wife is simply tone-deaf.

    FYC | Best music of 2021 so far:
    Arlo Parks - Collapsed In Sunbeams

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    Honey, a few notes:

    -Critics are biased.  BARF!
    -A 61 on Metacritic is NOT critically panned.

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    It’s probably due to the fact that it has nothing to do with the “Justice” theme as promised on the tin and by Justin himself. Some critics have agreed consistently that adding a Martin Luther King Jr sample layer on a song about JB’s wife is simply tone-deaf.

    I agree with the MLK criticism – those samples are embarrassingly tone-deaf. But the album is filled with robust lyrical and melodic hooks, the production is strong throughout, and Bieber’s singing is more effortless and confident than ever before. Credit should be given where credit is due. (I should note that many critics, NME and Pitchfork among them, have done just that.)

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    Honey, a few notes: -Critics are biased. BARF! -A 61 on Metacritic is NOT critically panned.

    A 61 is pretty poor, especially considering how lenient critics have grown.

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    A lot of the critics are being biased here. I think Pitchfork’s score was fair. This album isn’t that great but it’s above average at least.

    Hold on is a standout. I hope he submits it to the Grammy’s.

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    Justin Bieber has a Martin Luther King Jr. interlude after using the N-word? I’ll pass.

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    Justin Bieber has a Martin Luther King Jr. interlude after using the N-word? I’ll pass.

    If we are going to permanently hold people accountable for mistakes they make at the age of 15 without giving them the chance to make amends, take responsibility and correct themselves, then there is no hope in this world.

    Maybe better to focus your attention on Morgan Wallen who’s 27 and still uses that word.

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    His overall score is pretty poor and pretty deserved … the album is an improvement from his previous work but it’s not any show stopper either.

    I feel like with pitchfork .. they always like to evaluate artists based on their previous work. Justice got this score because it’s a huge improvement from changes. Cocc got 7.5 because they considered it a downgrade from NFR. As far as pitchfork is concerned, I believe all these scores should be seen in context with the previous scores awarded to the artists.

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    His overall score is pretty poor and pretty deserved … the album is an improvement from his previous work but it’s not any show stopper either. I feel like with pitchfork .. they always like to evaluate artists based on their previous work. Justice got this score because it’s a huge improvement from changes. Cocc got 7.5 because they considered it a downgrade from NFR. As far as pitchfork is concerned, I believe all these scores should be seen in context with the previous scores awarded to the artists.

    This is definitely true as a general rule. It’s hard to follow up an acclaimed project with more acclaim simply because standards are higher.

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    the standard is so low

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    This is one of those albums I listen to and have no opinion about. No congruent theme and/or style to analyse. No vocal, lyrical or production prowess to critique. No compatible narrative and no novelty at all, just a pop album that isn’t horrible.

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    If we are going to permanently hold people accountable for mistakes they make at the age of 15 without giving them the chance to make amends, take responsibility and correct themselves, then there is no hope in this world.

    Maybe better to focus your attention on Morgan Wallen who’s 27 and still uses that word.

    This is the same boy who disparagingly used the N-word in a song then got mad because he wasn’t nominated for R&B awards. You can’t disrespect a community and expect to be rewarded for it.He’s the definition of entitled privilege.

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