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    Miss Americana
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    This week’s Billboard Hot 100 top 10:

    #1. (+6) Butter [8th week at #1]
    #2. (=) Good 4 U
    #3. (+1) Levitating
    #4. (-1) Stay
    #5. (=) Kiss Me More
    #6. (=) Bad Habits
    #7. (-6) Permission To Dance
    #8. (=) Montero (CMBYN)
    #9. (+1) Deja Vu
    #10. (-1) Save Your Tears

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    Industry Baby should be debuting at #1 next week but I assume ~11k people buying 24 copies of the same song will apparently make Butter more popular than Industry Baby, a song that millions of people are actually listening to. Quite curious to see if Lil Nas X will point out how inaccurate the charts currently are.

    Both LNX and BTS are under Colombia and their CEO is already projecting Industry Baby for the #1.

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    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    I’ve said this a lot but Billboard’s formula is actually atrocious and makes no sense for the streaming era. Butter being #40 on streaming while allegedly being the biggest song in the country makes ZERO sense. Good 4 U should clearly be spending its 10th week at #1 but Billboard has decided to prioritize social media engagement over charts that accurately represent consumption. Industry Baby should be debuting at #1 next week but I assume ~11k people buying 24 copies of the same song will apparently make Butter more popular than Industry Baby, a song that millions of people are actually listening to. Quite curious to see if Lil Nas X will point out how inaccurate the charts currently are.

    Louder for the delusional stans in the back!!! I’m going to be sooo angry if Industry Baby misses out on the #1 spot because of fraudulent multiple remix mass buying by bts stans. Ain’t no one outside their fandom listening to that autotuned, generic, pop garbage song “butter”. Their abysmal streams speak for themselves and when over half the chart has almost 2Xs the streams of the supposed #1 song in America that looks very questionable. There’s a really good article written about that & why Billboard is just letting this happen. It’s very irritating because it just shows how irrelevant and useless Billboard is becoming. I’m glad the Grammys aren’t considering chart placement anymore when it comes to which artist/group is awarded. Best decision they’ve ever made.

    https://sonnysays.org/home/2021/7/18/bts-butter-bombing-a-billboard-accounting-fraud-ii

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    The way some of you seem to think that just buying any BTS song over and over makes them stay #1 … that is unsustainable in so many ways for so many weeks. Can’t happen.

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    The way some of you seem to think that just buying any BTS song over and over makes them stay #1 … that is unsustainable in so many ways for so many weeks. Can’t happen.

    Without the website sales, Butter would be in the #15–#20 for the past 9 weeks.

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    The way some of you seem to think that just buying any BTS song over and over makes them stay #1 … that is unsustainable in so many ways for so many weeks. Can’t happen.

    Except…..that is exactly what’s happening. Why do you think so many people are pointing out the fraudulence of “butter’s” chart placement? It’s most certainly not the #1 song in America. Not by a long shot. I don’t know if y’all have read the article I provided but here is an excerpt from it that describes the situation perfectly.

    “The BTS Army are the watered-down musical equivalent of a grassroot movement: the overseas fans are collectively wiring money to the US fans under the disguise of hosting Paypal fundraisers (above) as an alternative method to using fake VPNs and IPs, which we know now will get filtered by Billboard (this method already poses so many wire fraud and/or money laundering risks), and from there the US fans are mass-purchasing the song through their online retailers, but mostly directly-to-consumer through artist’s website.

    Youtuber and Billboard expert Mike Gondin explained to Forbes magazine that Columbia (BTS’ US distributor) and BTS’ niche audience are breaking ISRC codes too, all in order to allow bulk-buying Butter ever since its first week debuting number one. Each song’s identity is recognised by their own ISRC code, is dependent on the sound recording and differs if the new song on sale is +/- 10 seconds for example or an issued remix, effectively a material change. But Columbia have released ‘alternative’ cover arts of the original song but still labelled them differently to appear as a separate product, which can lead to breach of US consumer law and IFPI rules stated here.”

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    The way some of you seem to think that just buying any BTS song over and over makes them stay #1 … that is unsustainable in so many ways for so many weeks. Can’t happen.

    Besides the massbuying by select few fans, the fandom is using funds they’ve collected from all over the globe to fund sales in the US through BTS’s website. Through multiple weeks. That’s the problem.

    No hate but this was gonna be called out sooner or later and with all those articles coming up and so many industry folks speaking up too, only a matter of time before Billboard is forced to intervene. They’ve done this before with bundles too and website sales are next.

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    Lil Nas X won’t say anything, he has collabed with BTS in the past. Columbia won’t say anything for obvious reasons. UMG will also not say anything because BTS made more money for them this year through just their japanese language distribution deal than the entirety of Sour worldwide.

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    BILLBOARD YEAR END Chart

    WEEK 39/52

    #1 2,307,000 | DANGEROUS | Morgan Wallen
    #2 1,470,000 |SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON |Pop Smoke
    #3 1,459,000 |EVERMORE |Taylor Swift
    #4 1,327,000 | SOUR |Olivia Rodrigo
    #5 1,255,000 |POSITIONS | Ariana Grande
    #6 1,166,000 | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET |Luke Combs
    #7 1,084,000 | FUTURE NOSTALGIA |Dua Lipa
    #8 1,038,000 |MY TURN |Lil Baby
    #9 1,034,000  |F*CK LOVE |Kid Laroi
    #10 1,026,000 | LEGENDS NEVER DIE |Juice WRLD
    #11 977,000 | FOLKLORE |Taylor Swift
    #12 948,000 | AFTER HOURS |The Weeknd
    #13 920,000 |GOOD NEWS|Megan Thee Stallion
    #14 915,000 |EL ULTIMO TOUR DEL MUNDO Bad Bunny
    #15 906,000 |HOLLYWOOD’S BLEEDING |Post Malone
    #16 892,000 |THE VOICE |Lil Durk
    #17 889,000 |JUSTICE | Justin Bieber
    #18 870,000 |FINE LINE |Harry Styles
    #19 778,000  |GREATEST HITS | Queen
    #20 777,000  |GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE  |Juice WRLD

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    BILLBOARD YEAR END Chart

    WEEK 39/52

    #1 2,307,000 | DANGEROUS | Morgan Wallen

    Disgusting.

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    The vinyls are released august 20; traitor is getting a radio push and brutal is getting a video. Hopefully that’s enough for SOUR.

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    BTW, Blinding Lights just tied the record for most weeks on the Hot 100 and it hasn’t even left the top 20 yet.

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