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It’s true that ABBA was only nominated because of their ballot position.
It’s also true that they can benefit from passionate voters, the overdue narrative and vote-splitting between contemporary hits.
Voters behave differently in the two voting rounds. Heaux Tales & Call Me If You Get Lost won their field categories last year but there’s no way they were #1 in the voting during the first voting round.
ABBA can easily go from #4 to #1 in Pop Duo/Group Performance.
ReplyCopy URLKiss Me More had more longevity in the charts. Butter was mostly streamed by dedicated stans, and therefore not many outside of the fandom knew it.
The problem with the whole BB chart thing is they are still counting how much money a company gives to radio execs to play certain artists over and over to then inflate the charts. It is called Payola …. and yes it is still quite actively used. South Korea has rules against doing that so they can’t/won’t. Artists/companies that have been caught doing that have lost their lively hood.
Do I think BTS will win any Grammys? Probably not, but you never know as they did get the votes to be nominated.
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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.After watching Clive Davis’ speech at the pre-Grammy gala where Bang PD, the man behind discovering/forming BTS, was awarded the Clive Davis Visionary Award I’m more convinced than ever that BTS is taking home at least one Grammy Sunday night.
I’m extremely skeptical but we’ll see. Anything is possible. If ABBA doesn’t win BPDG then I personally think “Unholy” will win simply because it’s the biggest hit of the bunch and 90% of the time the biggest hit wins. ABBA is nominated for 4 Grammys so maybe they will upset in another category.
ReplyCopy URLFrom what I read there are only going to be ten categories that will be announced live on television because there will be 30 performances including a 50 year Hip-Hop tribute. Out of the Pop categories I think they will either announce Pop solo or Pop Vocal Album. If they choose to announce Pop Duo/Group I think that means “Unholy” will have won. I believe that Doja is attending, not sure about Coldplay/Post Malone or ABBA, but “I Like You” could be a dark horse. If BPDG isn’t announced live I believe that “Don’t Shut Me Down” or “My Universe” will have won.
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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.Clive Davis referred to BTS as an “incredible hit machine” in this video at the pre Grammy gala.
That’s interesting because none of the songs they are nominated for are actually hits. My Universe isn’t even the biggest hit in BPDG or hardly a hit at all. Does he not know what hits are?
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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.I honestly don’t think a lot of people in the US music industry were paying that close attention to BTS and didn’t “get” their appeal and assumed they were just a temporary fad…until their live Butter performance last year and their concerts at Sofi Stadium and Allegiant Stadium where they sold out the stadiums and also in Las Vegas the very venue the Grammys were held at for streaming the concert live. The whole city of Las Vegas lit up purple with special events and attractions related to BTS. Another thing to consider is that BTS members have to join the military, the eldest member is already serving. The other 6 members will most likely enlist by the end of the year. The voters may think this could be the last opportunity to recognize them. There are just so many things lining up in favor of My Universe winning.
1. I don’t think the Grammy voters care about anything you just mentioned. Bts is still a boyband and the Grammy’s has never looked at boybands favorably. Even with their Butter performance that nobody outside of stan Twitter gave a darn about. 2. One Direction at their peak were just as popular if not more so than bts and they were never recognized at the Grammys. They sold out stadiums left and right too and sold millions of records. However, it wasn’t until Harry Styles went solo that he got any recognition. Now he’s nominated all over the general field and is a Grammy winner. He’ll probably be a multiple Grammy winner after Sunday. 3. I think the voters are more inclined to recognize ABBA who are Pop legends than bts. I don’t think the industry loves bts or regards them in the way that you think they do. I think they see them as more of a gimmick with crazy fans rather than actual artists. 4. Like I said, I’m going to wait and see if BPDG will be announced on live TV. I think that will be a big indicator of who has won the award.
ReplyCopy URL- I don’t think the Grammy voters care about anything you just mentioned. Bts are still a boyband and the Grammy’s has never looked at boybands favorably. Even with their Butter performance that nobody outside of stan Twitter gave a darn about. 2. One Direction at their peak were just as popular if not more so than bts and they were never recognized at the Grammys. They sold out stadiums left and right too and sold millions of records. However, it wasn’t until Harry Styles went solo that he got any recognition. Now he’s nominated all over the general field and is a Grammy winner. He’ll probably be a multiple Grammy winner after Sunday. 3. I think the voters are more inclined to recognize ABBA who are Pop legends than bts. I don’t think the industry loves them or regards them in the way that you think they do. I think they see them as more of a gimmick with crazy fans rather than actual artists. 4. Like I said, I’m going to wait and see if the category will be announced on live TV. I think that will be a big indicator of who has won the award.
How will we know which categories will be announced? Will that be mentioned sometime before the event?
ReplyCopy URLI honestly don’t think a lot of people in the US music industry were paying that close attention to BTS and didn’t “get” their appeal and assumed they were just a temporary fad…until their live Butter performance last year and their concerts at Sofi Stadium and Allegiant Stadium where they sold out the stadiums and also in Las Vegas the very venue the Grammys were held at for streaming the concert live. The whole city of Las Vegas lit up purple with special events and attractions related to BTS. Another thing to consider is that BTS members have to join the military, the eldest member is already serving. The other 6 members will most likely enlist by the end of the year. The voters may think this could be the last opportunity to recognize them. There are just so many things lining up in favor of My Universe winning.
Take this from someone who was a boyband fan, keep your expectations below zero.
If they end up upsetting and winning, it’ll solely be because of Coldplay. The Grammys hate boybands, they’ve historically hated boybands. Nothing about the Butter performance would sway Grammy voters. Nothing about selling out a stadium would do that either. You’re setting yourself up for disappointment. If they win, take it as a plus.
My guy is nominated to six Grammys and I’m bracing myself for him to go 0/6 for the same reason I’m telling you this.
ReplyCopy URL1. I don’t think the Grammy voters care about anything you just mentioned. Bts are still a boyband and the Grammy’s has never looked at boybands favorably. Even with their Butter performance that nobody outside of stan Twitter gave a darn about. 2. One Direction at their peak were just as popular if not more so than bts and they were never recognized at the Grammys. They sold out stadiums left and right too and sold millions of records. However, it wasn’t until Harry Styles went solo that he got any recognition. Now he’s nominated all over the general field and is a Grammy winner. He’ll probably be a multiple Grammy winner after Sunday. 3. I think the voters are more inclined to recognize ABBA who are Pop legends than bts. I don’t think the industry loves them or regards them in the way that you think they do. I think they see them as more of a gimmick with crazy fans rather than actual artists. 4. Like I said, I’m going to wait and see if the category will be announced on live TV. I think that will be a big indicator of who has won the award.
I truly believe live announcement or pre-show announcement isn’t a indicator at the grammys. We’ve seen this over and over again every year, I always remember of that year they presented Best Comedy Album live and since Ellen was there everybody thought she had won it just for Dave Chappelle to win it while not attending.
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