R&B Grammys 2020 – Part Two

[DeemyParticipant Joined: Feb 20th, 2015 Topics: 3 Posts: 1097 View Predictions]

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PoweR wrote:

Lizzo would not be rejected from the R&B field.

I never said she would be rejected but less likely to get nominated and pushed aside for more “URBAN” artists. But she’s a “Pop star” on the rise. Maybe Pop VOCAL will be her forte. Her music already caters to a more white demographic anyways. As is her core fan base.

[PoweRParticipant Joined: Sep 27th, 2011 Topics: 77 Posts: 7253 View Predictions]

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Deemy wrote:

As is her core fan base.

Idk about that. Her BET appearance certainly proved otherwise.

[chem_xParticipant Joined: Jan 10th, 2016 Topics: 0 Posts: 411 View Predictions]

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Lizzo is a newcomer to the “urban” world, until recently that wasn’t her base. She is quickly gaining attention/respect from all corners which is great for BNA but tough for category placement.

[DeemyParticipant Joined: Feb 20th, 2015 Topics: 3 Posts: 1097 View Predictions]

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PoweR wrote:

Idk about that. Her BET appearance certainly proved otherwise.

She’s been releasing mainstream music for years. Has appeared on Rupul’s Drag Race. Is very popular with the white gays. So this was literally her first exposure to the Black demographic. Her music isn’t even being played on Urban radio like that.

[DarrenParticipant Joined: Feb 6th, 2017 Topics: 14 Posts: 5225 View Predictions]

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Deemy wrote:

Khalid can submit Talk to R&B song. and Better to R&B Performance. His album will get in Urban Contemporary.

It would probably make more sense to enter “Talk” in both categories and “Better” in Pop Solo. “Better” was a big enough pop hit to get a nomination there and it got no significant airplay on urban or R&B radio.

[DarrenParticipant Joined: Feb 6th, 2017 Topics: 14 Posts: 5225 View Predictions]

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Also, I just listened to Free Spirit in full for the first time, and that is a full-blown pop album. I think it will be moved out of Urban Contemporary. It’s way poppier than American Teen, which already skewed pretty pop.

If it were made by a white artist, there’d be no debate about what genre it is.

[BrayfersParticipant Joined: Oct 19th, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 102 View Predictions]

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any love for Kiana Lede / EX?

[BozParticipant Joined: Dec 5th, 2015 Topics: 10 Posts: 7160 View Predictions]

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Brayfers wrote:

any love for Kiana Lede / EX?

Should be in R&B Performance, but I think it might not be eligible-

[Why U So Obsessed?Participant Joined: Nov 6th, 2010 Topics: 158 Posts: 5048 View Predictions]

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Starboy & Girl were “poppy” and won.

“The best way to make someone feel small, is to not say anything to them at all” —>clicks ignore button

[smurty11Participant Joined: Sep 7th, 2014 Topics: 19 Posts: 979 View Predictions]

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Rihanna’s Unapologetic won Urban Contemporary Album. It was a mostly EDM album; Lizzo’s album will be accepted into the field.
The Country committee is the only group precious about genre placement.

[DarrenParticipant Joined: Feb 6th, 2017 Topics: 14 Posts: 5225 View Predictions]

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Why U So Obsessed? wrote:

Starboy & Girl were “poppy” and won.

Those albums had way more R&B and hip-hop influence. Aside from “Talk” there is barely any material that sounds even remotely R&B on the Khalid album.

To put it another way, CeeLo’s The Lady Killer leaned far more to the R&B side and was still slotted in pop.

Ask yourself if you really think Free Spirit would be considered an R&B or “urban contemporary” album if a white artist released it.

[PoweRParticipant Joined: Sep 27th, 2011 Topics: 77 Posts: 7253 View Predictions]

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Khalid is just pop in general. Outside of an obvious collection of songs, his music is definitely on the pop side. That’s why he is able to garner so many streams.

If I were a part of any committee, I would move his album to Pop. “Talk” belongs in R&B. “Better” belongs in Pop.

[cheyenne leeParticipant Joined: May 19th, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 168 View Predictions]

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Solange should submit to Best R&B Album.

When I Get Home fits the mould for Urban Contemporary better in my opinion (it doesn’t really stick to a traditional R&B format and branches out into numerous genres)

[cheyenne leeParticipant Joined: May 19th, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 168 View Predictions]

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24fanatic wrote:

 R&B Album: Ella Mai – Ella Mai Ari Lennox – Shea Butter Baby Mariah Carey – Caution India.Arie – Worthy Raphael Saadiq – Jimmy Lee BJ the Chicago Kid – 1123 Lionel Richie – Hello From Las Vegas (Live Album) Fantasia – Sketchbook

This is basically where my predictions for R&B albums are at currently. This would be such a tight category to call based on this list.

NOTE: Mariah would have a better chance in the R&B Song Categories with ‘With You’ since it was a hit on Urban AC formats. Khalid’s album was basically a pop album, and it’d be a slap in the face to other R&B artists if it was nominated. Lizzo fits perfectly into the Urban Contemporary category (a rapper/ singer with pop influences)

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[24fanaticParticipant Joined: Nov 6th, 2010 Topics: 1 Posts: 744 View Predictions]

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While I don’t see the R&B judging panel necessarily rejecting Khalid’s Free Spirit album and moving it to the Pop category, since there is a precedence of him being nominated in Urban Contemporary before, I do see them just simply snubbing the album in favor of more R&B/urban-leaning albums.

Similar to Drake last year, I could see Khalid being snubbed in his genre album category, but making it into Album of the Year based on his popularity.