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    SWV
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    Get real!  “Blinding Lights” did NOT miss Best Pop Solo Performance on a straight vote.  We all know some fuckery went down.

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    Get real! “Blinding Lights” did NOT miss Best Pop Solo Performance on a straight vote. We all know some fuckery went down.

    So you agree that your boy Justin Bieber was part of the riggers and got in over Abel?

    FYC: Grammys 2022

    AOTY: evermore
    ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo: willow
    Pop Album: evermore
    Pop Duo: evermore w Bon Iver
    Rap Song/ Melodic Rap: closure
    Dance Recording: long story short
    Remix Recording: Love Story (elvira)
    Country Solo/Country Song: cowboy like me
    Country Duo: You All Over Me w Marren Morris
    American Roots Perf/Song: ivy
    Gospel Per: epiphany (live)
    Rock Perf/Song: ‘tis the damn season
    Music Video: willow
    Music Film: folklore studio sessions

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    I don’t have an issue with this, especially if the general field will end up being mostly pop records. R&B, Hip Hop, Country, etc. deserve to have their fields to themselves. I imagine there has been a lot of voters just voting in fields and picking popular names without actually knowing the fields.

    Wait so pop voters were allowed to vote for r&b categories before ? I am confused….I always thought genre categories are voted by genre voters.

    And general categories having only pop is a terrible thing because the major complaint has always been how a black artists just win the urban or genre categories never general ones..this certainly reduces chances of a nomination even.

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    Record and Song nominees without a corresponding genre nom

    (not including cases were a different song was submitted in genre and not nominated {eg Lover} or the Record/Song got nominated in different genre categories {eg 4:44}

    Record of the Year

    2010: 0%
    2011: 0%
    2012: 20% (Holocene)
    2013: 20% (Thinkin Bout You, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together)
    2014: 0%
    2015: 20% (All About That Bass)
    2016: 0%
    2017: 20% (Formation)
    2019: 12.5% (I Like It)
    2020: 12.5% (Talk)
    2021: 12.5% (Circles)

    Song of the Year

    2010: 0%
    2011: 20% (Beg Borrow or Steal)
    2012: 20% (Holocene)
    2013: 20% (The A Team)
    2015: 40% (All That About Bass, Take
    Me to Church)
    2017: 40% (Formation, I Took a Pill in Ibiza
    2018: 40% (Issues, 1-800-273-8255)
    2019: 12.5% (In My Blood)
    2020: 37% (Always Remember Us This Way, Norman Fucking Rockwell, Someone You Loved)
    2021: 37% (Circles, I Can’t Breathe, If the World was Ending)

    Emmys FYC | Alan Tudyk in “Resident Alien” | Billie Piper in “I Hate Suzie” | Ego Nwodim in “Saturday Night Live” | Kaley Cuoco in “Harley Quinn” | “Dickinson” | “P-Valley” | “Pose” | “Superstore”

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    Excerpt from Grammy Chair (Interim President) Harvey Mason Jr Interview : https://variety.com/2021/music/news/grammy-harvey-mason-elimination-secret-nominating-committees-interview-1234964395/ Holysh*t he did NOT… 💀 I do not want to pressume or speculate but holy- What the hell 😂

    Kind of a compliment because he calls her biggest pop artist..but what I don’t understand is where should Folklore have been submitted(because alt voters aren’t gonna vote for a popular artist is what I am told). I am glad someone who has worked in industry accepts/claims it is not a pop record because I have come across way too many people claiming it is pop.

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    Not sure why people are jumping to conclusions about Taylor being nominated every year. She’s really not that liked by the Grammy’s. We expected her to win 3-4 Grammy’s but she won only 1. I’m not even sure that Evermore will make the top 8. It could get in Pop but I kinda doubt it too especially if there are stronger releases. We already have 4 strong contenders: Ariana, Billie, Olivia and Justin Bieber.

    Evermore is not pop. And Lover, and probably Speak Now, would have absolutely been have nominated if it wasn’t for the BRP.

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    Funny how Willman’s 2019 article made a case for Taylor Swift’s Lover to be nominated.

    I fully agree that snubbing Tyler the Creator was a travesty.

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    Kind of a compliment because he calls her biggest pop artist..but what I don’t understand is where should Folklore have been submitted(because alt voters aren’t gonna vote for a popular artist is what I am told). I am glad someone who has worked in industry accepts/claims it is not a pop record because I have come across way too many people claiming it is pop.

    I don’t think he was talking about Taylor Swift.

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    The Weeknd is in for a rude awakening. Blinding Lights missed Pop Solo Performance on a straight vote, so I’m not sure why he’s pushing the whole “secret committees blocked me” thing.

    Just because he was snubbed in Pop it doesn’t mean that he would have been snubbed in the general field. This year alone we saw that the General Field had different choices for the Pop winners (Taylor/Dua or Billie/Lizzo the year before)

    Some weird things have happened in the pop categories in the last years: Beck, Backstreet Boys, Christina Aguilera/Demi Lovato, Tony Bennett. That doesn’t mean those random pop choices made it to the top 20 of the General Field over Perfect Duet for example.

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    so AOTY nominees should probably look like this:

    • AC/DC
    • AJR
    • Anuel AA
    • Anitta
    • Bad Bunny
    • Jon Batiste
    • Justin Bieber
    • Big Sean

    I’m screaming at “Anitta” 💀💀

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    Will Scooter manipulate the GF with multiple nominations for Bieber? Oh well at least Peaches is good unlike Yummy

    I am not sure why some just don’t get it ….. Scooter is no longer in control. He can be overruled since he is ONLY 1 of many board members now for HYBE. HYBE bought out Scooter. He asked $1 Billion for his company and HYBE was the one willing to pay more than it was worth.

    BTW that makes HYBE the largest entertainment company now.

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    I am not sure why some just don’t get it ….. Scooter is no longer in control. He can be overruled since he is ONLY 1 of many board members now for HYBE. HYBE bought out Scooter. He asked $1 Billion for his company and HYBE was the one willing to pay more than it was worth.

    BTW that makes HYBE the largest entertainment company now.

    That’s just the business side of stuff, scooter braun himself is a pretty wealthy and influential person in the industry. He has a lot of big artists in his cohort.

    But this “Scooter Braun manipulated grammys” is a reach if you ask me, I don’t think he pulled any strings behind the scenes to get Justin Bieber nominated. Bieber is a big star, voting was low, his name was up in the list, he just got namechecked everywhere in pop. But only as a filler. And I don’t think scooter braun is nearly influential enough to play the biggest music award show to his whim ..

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    All black artists should boicot the grammy and never submit again, but there are a lot of them that still want their validation. However, grammys will become irrelevant at some point.

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    Honey, that’s what I’ve been saying.  Black artists definitely should NOT submit or even attend the shady Grammys again.  Unfortunately, artists believe a Grammy is the be-all-end-all.

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