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    Atypical
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    I actually think the interference this year was one of the most obvious it has been in years and that’s why they have now changed it, along with the criticism led by the Weeknd. Judging by the winners this year and the nominations outside the GF, there were definitely artists blocked from the GF to make room for other acts that didn’t make the top 20 or were very low on the list. Fiona Apple, Justin Bieber (unfortunately), Harry Styles etc almost certainly made it to the top 20 but were removed by the committee and that did shift how the GF winners worked out and made a path for some to win when it would be harder for them otherwise. I think it’s both a combination of no transparency with the committee and what their process is as well as voter engagement decreasing year on year and having so much outside influence impacting how people vote. Label ties and influences, the campaign gifts, being someone’s manager’s friend etc all influence how the limited pool of voters act, maybe more so than any other award show.

    This. Transparency is needed now more than ever with the BRP excluding acts from the general field to satisfy its particular agendas and whims for the year. It’s flat-out wrong, they were called out on that bullshit by Abel and others, and now it’s time to see what the popular vote does. Pandora’s Box has been opened and can’t be closed again. If that means AOTY winner Justin Bieber for “Justice,” then that’s what the fuck it means. The voting memebership will have to live with that just like it does for all of its questionable choices.

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    ˈdī(ə)mənd ˈtir
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    Based on rule change, these are my predictions (confirmed or released only):

    RECORD OF THE YEAR
    24kGoldn, Iann Dior, J Balvin, & Justin Bieber, “Mood”
    Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion, “WAP”
    Justin Bieber f/ Daniel Caesar & Giveon, “Peaches”
    Billie Eilish, “Therefore I Am”
    Ariana Grande, “positions”
    Lil Nas X, “MONTERO (Call Me By Your Nane)”
    Olivia Rodrigo, “drivers license”
    Silk Sonic, “Leave the Door Open”

    ALT: Bad Bunny f/ Jhay Cortez, “DÁKITI”

    ALBUM OF THE YEAR
    Justin Bieber, Justice
    Drake, Certified Lover Boy
    Billie Eilish, Happier Than Ever
    Ariana Grande, Positions
    Lil Nas X, MONTERO
    Megan Thee Stallion, Good News
    Olivia Rodrigo, SOUR
    Silk Sonic, An Evening with Silk Sonic

    ALT: Taylor Swift, Evermore

    SONG OF THE YEAR
    Justin Bieber f/ Daniel Caesar & Giveon, “Peaches”
    Billie Eilish, “Therefore I Am”
    Ariana Grande, “positions”
    H.E.R., “Damage”
    Lil Tjay f/ 6LACK, “Calling My Phone”
    Olivia Rodrigo, “drivers license”
    Silk Sonic, “Leave the Door Open”
    Taylor Swift, “willow”

    ALT: SZA, “Good Days”

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    Good riddance tbh. If you don’t trust your voting body, educate them or mold them to be good (axe label executives, managers, etc that basically use Grammys as a PR machine and put the focus on the people that actually do the music). Why would anybody be interested in taking part of any of this if then a third part is going to “correct” your opinion?

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    It doesn‘t matter if there is a comitee or not, transparancy or not and who has a vote in this. When all is said and done and the winner is announced, the will be immediate visible backlash:

     

    Popular successful act: Grammys are a popularity contest

     

    Veteran acts: old hags won because of the overdue factor

     

    Unknown artist: Industry plant that nobody knows won

     

    Boygroup: Grammys turned into kids choice awards

     

    White successful act wins over highly predicted black act: racism/#Grammyssowhite

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    It doesn‘t matter if there is a comitee or not, transparancy or not and who has a vote in this. When all is said and done and the winner is announced, the will be immediate visible backlash: Popular successful act: Grammys are a popularity contest Veteran acts: old hags won because of the overdue factor Unknown artist: Industry plant that nobody knows won Boygroup: Grammys turned into kids choice awards White successful act wins over highly predicted black act: racism/#Grammyssowhite

    Nail’s been hit on the fucking head. There’s always an army of people ready to bitch about the Grammys. Always.

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    It doesn‘t matter if there is a comitee or not, transparancy or not and who has a vote in this. When all is said and done and the winner is announced, the will be immediate visible backlash:

    Popular successful act: Grammys are a popularity contest

    Veteran acts: old hags won because of the overdue factor

    Unknown artist: Industry plant that nobody knows won

    Boygroup: Grammys turned into kids choice awards

    White successful act wins over highly predicted black act: racism/#Grammyssowhite

    slow clap! And this is only on Clownderby. This year’s winners received no backlash or hate, it was all concentrated on this damn forum.

    FYC: Grammys 2022

    AOTY: evermore
    ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo: willow
    Pop Album: evermore
    Pop Duo: evermore w Bon Iver
    Rap Song/ Melodic Rap: closure
    Dance Recording: long story short
    Remix Recording: Love Story (elvira)
    Country Solo/Country Song: cowboy like me
    Country Duo: You All Over Me w Marren Morris
    American Roots Perf/Song: ivy
    Gospel Per: epiphany (live)
    Rock Perf/Song: ‘tis the damn season
    Music Video: willow
    Music Film: folklore studio sessions

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    People don’t hate the winners, it’s just there was a nominee of non-nominee that had a far better year overall. I don’t think commercial pop albums winning is such an issue: 21, 1989, and WWAFAWDWG? deserved to win because of their critical success. However, sometimes there’s other albums that feel more important culturally than others. Like how I mentioned weeks ago, you can’t compare 1989 with TPAB because they are extremely different wavelengths. One is considered the most critically acclaimed album of the 2010s (someone would say one of biggest all time), and the other was the second biggest pop record of the 2010s.

    Veterans win when they have been overdue, not because it’s a consensus that their album is the best. Radiohead lost all their best albums to Bob Dylan, Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin, and Steely Dan. Everyone knows Kid A, OK Computer, and In Rainbows, and I cannot pull anyone from the street and say they recall the works that won, even if I love Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, and Steely Dan.

    A “boy group” hasn’t won since the Beatles, and they definitely deserved their win.

    Unknown Artists like HER: look I get why I can’t breathe won. It’s extremely poignant, but the timing feels out of place for someone who is not commercially or critically successful.

    The White/Black argument: Obviously Black winners exist, but when you keep snubbing artists from genres that are predominantly black (Rap and R&B), there is an extremely blatant problem, especially if your GF winners in big 3 categories win to make a political statement rather than their non-Black  counterparts who win talking about love, breaking  up, being the “bad guy”, and being needy of a past lover.

    RIP SOPHIE

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    slow clap! And this is only on Clownderby. This year’s winners received no backlash or hate, it was all concentrated on this damn forum.

    are we negating the nominees? Just because you have amazing winners does not compensate it since there was not valid competition.

    RIP SOPHIE

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    H.E.R won for i can’t breathe because it was the best song in the lineup (the lyrics in particular)

    They didnt care about her critical or commercial success as it should be so i don’t see the issue here.

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    It doesn‘t matter if there is a comitee or not, transparancy or not and who has a vote in this. When all is said and done and the winner is announced, the will be immediate visible backlash:

    Popular successful act: Grammys are a popularity contest

    Veteran acts: old hags won because of the overdue factor

    Unknown artist: Industry plant that nobody knows won

    Boygroup: Grammys turned into kids choice awards

    White successful act wins over highly predicted black act: racism/#Grammyssowhite

    Basically.

    People will complain either way.

    Same ones in favor of this change will be complaining when the results aren’t what they want them to be. Bet.

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    And please stop referring to a platinum recording artist/major label signed artist like H.E.R. as “unknown.” She’s not. She’s more or less like John Legend was pre-“All of Me.”

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    So it’s official? It’s reported that they voted to disband these committees.

    I think this will help certain artists but harm others.

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    Had the NRC been long gone, Britney Spears’ Circus might have won Pop Vocal Album.

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    Had the NRC been long gone, Britney Spears’ Circus might have won Pop Vocal Album.

    Pop has never had a committee

    FYC - Lil Nas X
    MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) - ROTY, SOTY, Best Pop Solo Perf., Best Music Video
    INDUSTRY BABY - Best Melodic Rap Perf., Best Rap Song
    MONTERO - AOTY, Best Pop Vocal Album

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    If they want to do this, they need to at least add a rule that allows them to disqualify artists who engage in conduct antithetical to the Academy’s “values”. I do not want to see Morgan Wallen for example in the General Field. And it’s now likely to happen because there isn’t a committee.

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