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    We all know Mariah Carey’s first single will feature a rapper.  I expect her to collaborate with Lil’ Wayne, Drake, J. Cole, B.O.B. and Big Sean to name a few.  It’ll be the same ole, generic hip-hop mess that she always delivers.

    You mean like “Obsessed,” “Touch My Body,” “Through the Rain,” and “Loverboy”? Those
    are the lead singles from four out of her last five studio albums and
    none of them feature rappers. Even “It’s Like That” only featured
    cameos, not actual rap verses.
    In fact, only ONE lead single from Mariah has ever featured a rapper: “Heartbreaker.” Remixes are another story.

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    [quote=”Gucci”]We all know Mariah Carey’s first single will feature a rapper.  I expect her to collaborate with Lil’ Wayne, Drake, J. Cole, B.O.B. and Big Sean to name a few.  It’ll be the same ole, generic hip-hop mess that she always delivers.

    You mean like “Obsessed,” “Touch My Body,” “Through the Rain,” and “Loverboy”? Those
    are the lead singles from four out of her last five studio albums and
    none of them feature rappers. Even “It’s Like That” only featured
    cameos, not actual rap verses.
    In fact, only ONE lead single from Mariah has ever featured a rapper: “Heartbreaker.” Remixes are another story.[/quote]

    Thank you.   

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    I love Kelly Rowland and I love Mimi!!

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    torontophenom
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    Let the speculation begin….

    Will Mariah Carey be replacing Nicole Scherzinger on the X-Factor? It was just announced Scherzinger got the boot along with that British host.

    I think Mariah would fit in very well with this show. What do you guys think?

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    I definitely don’t agree with the songs he picked out, but Mariah got a long discussion in Billboard’s “Chart Beat” this week:

    Hi Gary,

    This has bothered me for 17 years: why wasn’t “When I Saw You” by Mariah Carey released as a single?

    In 1995-96, Carey was at one of her (many) career peaks and this ballad could have easily been the fourth Hot 100 No. 1 from her album “Daydream.” Columbia chose the admittedly beautiful ’50s-styled “Forever” instead (although it didn’t give that song a physical CD release).

    “When,” an ode to love at first sight, would’ve countered nicely to the themes of loss and longing featured on her other “Daydream”-era singles (i.e., “One Sweet Day”), not to mention its insanely hooky chorus where Carey belts out 16 bars of melisma – without ever taking a breath! (Maybe that’s why she, as far I know, has never performed it live?)

    Such a shame because this track should’ve been huge (and still could be a hit today).

    Artie O’Daly
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    Hi Artie,

    I like “When I Saw You,” too, although I can’t argue with Columbia having released “Forever.” It was actually a bold choice, as not many songs on pop radio in recent decades sound like “Unchained Melody.” The waltz rose to No. 9 on Pop Songs in summer 1996.

    This e-mail, in fact, deserves its own countdown! Here are my picks for Carey’s top five songs that should’ve been singles, guided by my radio background that taught me that a hook outweighs any other attributes a song may have. Had they been released, Carey might have already passed the Beatles (20) for most Hot 100 No. 1s. She currently has 18.

    5, “Languishing (The Interlude),” from “Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel” (2009). Maybe if Carey had recorded the song in full and not just as a 2-minute, 33-second filler track, it would’ve been a stronger single candidate. Still, she packs the song’s short length with a memorably catchy chorus.

    4, “So Blessed,” from “Emotions” (1991). Carey even covered the song, similar in sound to “When I Saw You,” on 1992’s “MTV Unplugged” EP.

    Tie 3, “Reflections (Care Enough)”/”Lead the Way,” from “Glitter” (2001). Yes, I’m aware that “Glitter” is one of the most maligned movies in cinema history. Too bad, because I’ve always felt that its soundtrack contains two of her best ballads. “Lead” was co-written by Carey and Walter Afanasieff, who teamed to pen her hits “Can’t Let Go,” “Hero” and “Anytime You Need a Friend” (plus the No. 1 song ahead on this ranking.)

    2, “Whenever You Call,” from “Butterfly” (1997). It seemed that the ballad might finally become a single when Carey rerecorded it as a duet with Brian McKnight and revived it on her 1998 compilation “#1’s.” Although a video was filmed, the song never became a radio single.

    1, “All I Ever Wanted,” from “Music Box” (1993). Despite her catalog of monster hit singles, my two favorite songs of Carey’s are the seasonal “All I Want for Christmas Is You” and this ballad (also co-written with Afanasieff). Who knows, had “All” become the fourth single from “Music Box” instead of the No. 12 Hot 100 hit “Anytime You Need a Friend,” Carey might’ve extended her career-opening streak of top 10s to 12. Instead, her run halted at 11, still a Hot 100 record among new artists matched since by only one act, the singer that prompted this discussion when her streak stopped with the No. 29-peaking “Marry the Night”: Lady Gaga.  

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    Also Nick Cannon confirmed that she is recording a new album, not that this is a surprise considering a number of producers have been tweeting pictures of them in the studio with her.  

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    Amusing article.  
    http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2012/04/mariah_carey_elvis_chart_1.php 

    Mariah Carey: Still More No. 1 Singles Than Elvis

    Four years ago this week, Mariah Carey made music history by scoring the 18th No. 1 single of her career. Think about that for a second: If you’re reading this, Mariah Carey has recorded more No. 1 singles than women you’ve had sex with (a lot more). What makes the feat even more incredible is that she beat the record for a solo artist set by a true pop music titan — the King of rock and roll himself, Elvis Presley.

    Well, probably, anyway. Elvis recorded a bunch of early singles before the Billboard “Hot 100” era, and most of them were double-sided 45s that contained two smash hits.

    Some hardcore fans argue hard that Elvis only had 14 No. 1s, some say 17 and some say 18, depending on the friendless loser you’re arguing with. Simply put, it was a different time, one that’s hard to compare to Mariah’s heyday.

    Still, though: 18. That ain’t bad. As far as the Associated Press was concerned, the Diva took down the King. Or did she?

    Is there really any non-hilarious comparison to be made between the careers of these two top hitmakers? In 1956, Elvis drastically changed the course of popular culture all over the world. In 1994, Mariah drastically changed her hairstyle. Can it be seriously argued that Ms. Mimi is the bigger, better chart-topper?

    Let’s find out, shall we? We won’t try to match up every hit each artist had — that would be stupid, and we ain’t got that kind of time. Instead, let’s just compare the highlights to find out which hitmaker really reigns supreme.

    Their First Time — “Vision of Love” vs. “Heartbreak Hotel”: A comparison between the two artists’ first No. 1 hits is pretty much a slam-dunk win for the King. Not that “Vision of Love” was a bad introduction for Mariah, mind — a smash-hit chart-topper on your first try out of the gate is pretty awesome. “Vision” featured everything that people love about her: A smooth R&B beat, her inhuman range and spandex clothes in the video. 

    But come on. Without “Heartbreak Hotel,” “Vision of Love” would have never existed and Mariah would have never made it out of church. Singers are still getting laid by covering this song more than 50 years after it hit No. 1. “Heartbreak Hotel” sits at the head table at reunions of classic rock and roll records, and it’s as well-known in Shanghai, China, as Memphis, Tennessee. Tally one for the King, and let’s move on.

    Score: Mariah 0, Elvis 1

    The Comebacks — “We Belong Together” vs. “Suspicious Minds”: This matchup is more interesting. Both artists’ careers stretch over decades, and they weren’t always on top. In 2005, Mariah looked like she might be done after her movie megaflop Glitter and a bout of debilitating “exhaustion.” Behind the Music was licking its chops.

    But psyche! “We Belong Together” became her first No. 1 single in five years and spent 14 weeks at the top of the chart, netting her two Grammys. It was one of the biggest smashes of her career, a great song featuring superlative emoting that’s ideal for singing along to on the radio.

    “Suspicious Minds” was… a good Elvis song. Sure, it was a major milestone in his career. It was his first No. 1 in seven years, sealing his comeback from Hollywood hell. But it only spent one lousy week at the top of the charts, and it’s got none of the paradigm-shifting spark of his early tunes. I’m giving this one to Mariah.

    Score: Mariah 1, Elvis 1

    The Record Setters — “Touch My Body” vs. “Burning Love”: Here’s where things get a tad controversial. “Burning Love” peaked at No. 2 on the Hot 100, but it went No. 1 on Cashbox’s Top 40 Charts in 1972, and to a lot of Elvis diehards, that totally counts, bringing his tally to 18. For the sake of argument, I’m inclined to give it to him. “Burning Love” was the King’s biggest hit of the ’70s, and it’s a rockin’ tune that sums up that era of his career nicely.

    Like “Burning Love,” “Touch My Body” is a sexually charged love song, both artists’ shared forte. The 18th chart-topper from each features the singers at a point in their careers that’s probably past their prime, but still powerful. It’s a close one, but “Burning Love” gets the nod.

    Score: Mariah 1, Elvis 2

    Sexy Time — “Honey” vs. “A Big Hunk O’ Love”: Now we’re talkin.’ Sexuality is a major part of both Elvis’ and Mariah’s appeal. Elvis was so hot in the ’50s that TV shows only filmed him from the waist up. “A Big Hunk O’ Love” went No. 1 in 1959, and it was Elvis at his hip-swiveling best. You can almost hear the still-echoing screams from teenage girls as he sings lyrics like “You’re just a natural born beehive/ Filled with honey to the top/ Well, I ain’t greedy baby/ All I want is all you got.”

    But for teenage boys watching MTV in 1997, “Honey” kicked the dogcrap out of Elvis. After playing the good girl for the early years of her career, this song was a true eruption for Mariah, showcasing a sexier, more street edge to her image and sound. Her voice practically drips from the speakers, and the music video was unforgettable. Elvis may have had the moves, but he’s never inspired much grinding in the club; at least not in my lifetime. Marry me, Mariah!

    Score: Mariah 2, Elvis 2

    The Big One — “One Sweet Day” vs. “All Shook Up:” It all comes down to this: The biggest hits of each artist’s career. There’s no fairer way to judge a hitmaker than by the hugest, chart-topping smash they ever produced, right? For Mariah Carey, that distinction falls to “One Sweet Day,” her inescapable collabo with Boyz II Men that spent a record 16 weeks atop the Hot 100. Somewhere, this song is being played right now as the first dance at some wedding you weren’t invited to, even though it’s about dead people.

    Elvis didn’t need any help to achieve the longest-charting No. 1 of his career. “All Shook Up” spent a ridiculous 30 weeks in the Top 100 and eight at the top. It also happened to become one of the most iconic songs in pop music history, a feat “One Sweet Day” could never come close to matching. Mariah and the Boyz sang their hearts out, but their combined melisma can’t touch the power in Elvis’ humming alone in this song. Elvis wins, folks. Duh.

    Final Score: Mariah 2, Elvis 3

    So, despite her 18 No. 1s, turns out Mariah Carey is no Elvis Presley. But then again, nobody else is, either. There can only be one King of rock and roll. Not quite known for her modesty, Mariah even admitted it herself four years ago when she smashed his record:

    “I really can never put myself in the category of people who have not only revolutionized music but also changed the world,” she told The Associated Press. “That’s a completely different era and time … I’m just feeling really happy and grateful.”

    Well said, Ms. Carey. No need to hang your head. You’ve got more No. 1 singles under your belt than any of your contemporaries dare dream of. So what if they didn’t help spawn an entire new youth movement? You’ve more than earned your place in the music-history books.

    And hey, two more No. 1 singles and you tie the Beatles! Don’t stop now.

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    Where the hell is MiMi anyways??
    She’s been off for so long and we haven’t heard any damn word on her recording!

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    Okay so I just recently purchased My Love is Your Love, Madonna, and Music Box at a bargain pitt, so I am in the mood to rank their albums lol. How do you rank Mariah’s?

    Mine:

    Daydream
    Butterfly
    Music Box
    Emotions

    Mariah Carey
    Rainbow
    Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel

    Emancipation of MiMi
    E=MC2
    Glitter Soundtrack

    Charmbracelet

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    Butterfly
    Emotions
    The Emancipation of Mimi
    Mariah Carey
    Glitter
    E=MC2
    Daydream
    Rainbow
    Music Box
    Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel

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    Let’s get the Mariah thread pumping! I always wanted to know what fans thought the big deal was with Emancipation?
    I know it was her comeback and was incredibly successful ext… But I just think she’s better than that, of this overrated album. Alot of the tracks are great jams (Shake it off, Get Number) but the rest??? Idk I hated how she tried to combine random gospels and ballads, than have annoying rappers on top. I really wanted to kill jermaine as well, I don’t wanna hear his ass just his production!

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    Emancipation is actually among her most consistent efforts IMO, because it marries her hip-hop influences with her pop sensibilities in a manner that sounded somewhat fresh at the time.  It also helps that it contained WBT, a song that almost single handedly resurrected her floundering career.  I have never thought of Mariah as an album artist, therefore I may have somewhat lower expectations from her albums.  The first half of her career is marked with many strong singles contained in the form of weak albums (i.e. MC, Emotions, Music Box), but I felt she really started to create stronger albums as she developed as an artist and moved away from being too reliant on ballads.  Butterfly remains her strongest overall album, but I think TEOM is easily among her finest and most accomplished works. 

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