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    cardigan saw an increase in US Spotify streams today for the first time (other than Monday updates). Hopefully shows that it’s starting to stabilize a bit.

    Anyways she’s back to tanking again today. They must be moving on or just not promoting since it’s falling off every playlist. Hopefully they were just saving all their promo money for exile because it doesn’t seem like they’ve spent hardly any of it so far.

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    AOTY: folklore, Gaslighter, Kid Krow, Ungodly Hour, Punisher, SAWAYAMA, Future Nostalgia, Manic

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    There’s several reasons why Taylor will be politically subbed. 1) Her name. Taylor Swift is often deemed overrated, she had one of the most successful albums of the last decade “1989” and this site was 80% just people saying Taylor Swift will not be the first woman to win twice. She’s either loved or hated. It’s clear with the negative/mixed reviews that folklore got, people don’t like her more than they can judge her music without bias. I mean Pitchfork ignored her completely until it was pointed out that they reviewed a Taylor Swift cover album before a Taylor Swift album. Reputation was the first album they reviewed then they retroactively reviewed her previous work. 2) She’s a 30 year old white woman. It’s clear that folklore is acclaimed but the argument is “White woman wins AotY three times and a black artist hasn’t won since 2008”. People will say “Beyoncé hasn’t won yet Taylor has won 3 times even though Taylor has been the clear front runner each time she won. 3) She’s already won twice. That will be on a lot of voters minds. Which boils down to “Is Taylor Swift official considered one of the greatest artist of all time?” Not just of right now. I would argue that she’s entering her 15th year of being incredibly successful which I’ve never seen anyone recently have her longevity. But going back to my first two points, can you compare her to Frank and Stevie? Is her songwriting ability one that can only be matched by people ranked in Rolling Stone’s GOATs list? Some would argue yes, others will riot and say absolutely 100% no. In my personal opinion politically Taylor is at a disadvantage because of this. She deserves to be a potential winner, because she’s accomplished things that her previous winning albums did. Considering her acclaim and commercial success and shift of sounds. But the Grammys have never considered acclaim if so Adele wouldn’t have won for 25 not Taylor for Fearless. They care about success and rarely do critically acclaimed albums archive success. I mean lorde got a single nomination for IMO one of the greatest albums ever. Just one, AotY and it has a 92 on meta and lost to an album with a 70 that took home everything. Just some thoughts.

    All of this. Plus, have you seen how hard The Weeknd is campaigning? His campaign this year has been like Taylor’s campaigns in the past, while Taylor herself doesn’t seem to care as much about the Grammy’s this time around. Maybe it’s because she knows a win will be problematic, or maybe, just maybe, when she said in Miss Americana she didn’t care what other people thought of her, she was telling the truth.

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    All of this. Plus, have you seen how hard The Weeknd is campaigning? His campaign this year has been like Taylor’s campaigns in the past, while Taylor herself doesn’t seem to care as much about the Grammy’s this time around. Maybe it’s because she knows a win will be problematic, or maybe, just maybe, when she said in Miss Americana she didn’t care what other people thought of her, she was telling the truth.

    I personally believe it’s the former, Taylor has been almost beaten into submission after “1989” her last two albums weren’t exactly “accepted”. Also this album isn’t exactly an album so to say but more of a side project. 4 months to make, shes not doing promo (not that you really can), from the sounds of it she was bored and decided to make an album.

    Clearly she’s not considering commercial success, it’s not a pop album. I don’t think any song off this album had been hits in a normal setting.

    She made an album of deep cuts and got rid of the fluff that is usually commercial successful.

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    Folklore wasn’t engineered to produce any big hits. The hit is the album. As long as it continues charting on Billboard 200, the era will be fine.

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    folklore on Apple Music – Daily

    Australia 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
    Canada 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
    Mexico 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
    UK 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
    US 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2

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    Folklore is #1 for a second week in Ireland https://twitter.com/irishcharts/status/1294272662274023426

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    Folklore is #1 for a third week in the UK, becoming the first 2020 album to spend its first three weeks at #1. It’s also her longest #1 album there.
    https://twitter.com/officialcharts/status/1294303070067798017

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    Folklore wasn’t engineered to produce any big hits. The hit is the album. As long as it continues charting on Billboard 200, the era will be fine.

    this I can’t at people dragging Cardigan for its drop. There is nothing like it that’s popular right now. It’s a piano ballad by a female artist. It’s lucky to have the success it had. Most hits are fueled by freaking GenZ tweens and Tik Tok. cardigan’s lyrics are too much for idiots these days. They’d rather make songs like Savage Love and Rockstar hits because they are generic and easier on the General Public’s ears. I for one am content with this era. Taylor delivered her magnum opus, a universal acclaimed piece of music. She’ll get her fourth album of the year nod. I don’t know about a win but she will for sure be in the general field, and those who say it’s undeserved are just clouded by sheer hate, and probably don’t even listen to her music.

    FYC: Taylor Swift
    AOTY: folklore
    ROTY: exile feat. Bon Iver
    SOTY: cardigan
    Pop Solo: cardigan
    PD/G: exile feat. Bon Iver
    PVA: folklore
    Country Solo: betty
    Country Song: betty
    American Roots Performance: seven
    American Roots Song: seven
    Rock Performance: august
    Rock Song: august
    Traditional R&B: False God
    R&B Song: False God
    Song Visual Media: Only The Young
    Song Visual Media: Beautiful Ghosts
    Music Film: Miss Americana
    Music Video: The Man

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    According to HDD, Folklore is going to spend a third week at #1 with 140,000 sales more than second week sales. It will be her first album to spend 3 weeks at #1 since reputation.

    Source: https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming

    With 3 weeks of release, Folklore is already in the top 10 of Billboard Year End Chart currently at #9 when Billboard 200 updates this sunday.

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    According to HDD, Folklore is going to spend a third week at #1 with 140,000 sales more than second week sales. It will be her first album to spend 3 weeks at #1 since reputation. Source: https://hitsdailydouble.com/sales_plus_streaming With 3 weeks of release, Folklore is already in the top 10 of Billboard Year End Chart currently at #9 when Billboard 200 updates this sunday.

    I think this will be her last week at #1. Juice world is really close, he might overtake next week.

    Pop smoke – 34 songs on 1 album

    Juice world – 25 songs on 1 album

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    I think this will be her last week at #1. Juice world is really close, he might overtake next week.

    Pop smoke – 34 songs on 1 album

    Juice world – 25 songs on 1 album

    I agree, but she is going to spend a lot of weeks in the top 3/top 5 I believe.

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    I agree, but she is going to spend a lot of weeks in the top 3/top 5 I believe.

    Yes, definitely. She always slay on billboard 200 chart. Even lover is doing extremely good.

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    I think this will be her last week at #1. Juice world is really close, he might overtake next week. Pop smoke – 34 songs on 1 album Juice world – 25 songs on 1 album

    Juice Wrld actually has 22 tracks on his album. And a few of them are interludes.

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    Keep dreaming!  Taylor Swift will NOT get a fourth Album of the Year nomination.  Magnum opus, my ass!  You stans are insane in the brain.

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    Keep dreaming! Taylor Swift will NOT get a fourth Album of the Year nomination. Magnum opus, my ass! You stans are insane in the brain.

    you are exhausting. You’ve made it very clear that you hate Taylor yet you linger in her official thread more than her actual fans. It be one thing if you actually shared a well thought out opinion on her music. But You are just a toxic parasite That has nothing better to do you seriously are pathetic. Get a life.

    FYC: Taylor Swift
    AOTY: folklore
    ROTY: exile feat. Bon Iver
    SOTY: cardigan
    Pop Solo: cardigan
    PD/G: exile feat. Bon Iver
    PVA: folklore
    Country Solo: betty
    Country Song: betty
    American Roots Performance: seven
    American Roots Song: seven
    Rock Performance: august
    Rock Song: august
    Traditional R&B: False God
    R&B Song: False God
    Song Visual Media: Only The Young
    Song Visual Media: Beautiful Ghosts
    Music Film: Miss Americana
    Music Video: The Man

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