May 28, 2020 at 9:23 pm #1203506606
People here are really complaining about white artist winning AOTY over others. I agree beyonce and Kendrick both deserved.
But grammys are not racist . It’s like they award safest choice ( commercially successful albums+ acclaim over highly acclaimed albums). Same goes last year too. Billie eilish’s WWAFAWDWG won over NFR ( lana Del Rey) and we all know which one was better album…May 28, 2020 at 9:31 pm #1203506619
I know some of you will still go on and hamper on the race thing when all I’ve stated in this thread were facts unless you want to lie to yourself.
Here’s the fact: The Grammys being racist is not a fact but it’s just a popular speculation and that’s that. Case closed.
Just because you say the case is closed does not make it closed. People are trying to have a discussion and you cannot squash it just because you feel like it should be squashed.May 28, 2020 at 9:32 pm #1203506623
I am curious about the demographics of the voters for the Grammys.May 28, 2020 at 11:04 pm #1203506756
Just because you say the case is closed does not make it closed. People are trying to have a discussion and you cannot squash it just because you feel like it should be squashed.
I said case closed because anything further would revolve around people’s speculations of the Grammys “racist” acts which is unfair to the Recording Academy. Cut them some slack. We don’t know for sure why Taylor and Bruno were picked over Kendrick nor do we know why Adele was picked over Beyoncé. That’s just it.May 28, 2020 at 11:36 pm #1203506778
So am I. But that doesn’t mean that a black voter isn’t capable of picking Adele over Beyoncé too.
I never said that a black voter isn’t capable of picking Adele over Beyonce. Quite frankly, both Adele and Beyonce have been over rewarded at the Grammys.
The issue with the Grammys is probably very similar to the Oscars – look at the make up of the membership and make changes from there. We do not have visibility to who become voting members of the Grammys like we see new voting members for the Oscars.May 28, 2020 at 11:52 pm #1203506806
I never said that a black voter isn’t capable of picking Adele over Beyonce. Quite frankly, both Adele and Beyonce have been over rewarded at the Grammys. The issue with the Grammys is probably very similar to the Oscars – look at the make up of the membership and make changes from there. We do not have visibility to who become voting members of the Grammys like we see new voting members for the Oscars.
Yes, I agree that’s an issue. They did employ some chief of diversity and inclusion earlier this year. But I hope that the “diversity” in question transcends race and spreads to diversity in music genres as well.May 29, 2020 at 12:01 am #1203506820
(I cut this bit out because it was becoming a rant)
I’m pretty I’m not lying when I say no World Music or Reggae Album has made the GF, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. However, I feel these categories aren’t being given equal treatment either.
There are no song, performance or recording categories in these two categories and quite a few more. Look at Reggae album for example. In the past two years, they have gone to Koffee and Sting & Shaggy. There’s no doubt that these choices were the most popular in the lineup, and while it’s not a bad thing, it does have me speculating that voters in the field made these choices only because of popularity. But that’s speculation, not fact.
Having performance and song categories for all categories eligible would be a good decision for the recording academy to make because as it is, they’re implying that these genres aren’t as important as others which shouldn’t be the case.May 29, 2020 at 3:07 pm #1203508017This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.May 29, 2020 at 4:13 pm #1203508113
I don’t think 2019’s Pop Vocal Album was between Ariana and Taylor. Taylor missed ROTY, SOTY, and Pop Solo twice, as well as BMV for Look What You Made Me Do (which most people thought it was going to win or at least be competitive for a win), and Pop Duo Group for End Game as well. They simply didn’t like that era. No album ever won Pop Vocal without any other noms whatsoever, so I just find it dumb to think Reputation (which was definitely seen as a step backwards for Swift) would’ve made much impact. A shame cuz I think it’s a good album. Gold Derby users need to stop thinking that Grammy voters go to Billboard for voting aid. They clearly didn’t like that era. Furthermore, Ariana was undoubtedly the biggest star of the year. She probably won by a good percent. I think this is how it went for the win: 1. Sweetener (gap) 2. Meaning of Life 3. Beautiful Trauma 4. Reputation 5. Shawn Mendes 6. Camila I think those last 2 were the ties. That year was very competitive anyways.
I agree that Sweetener easily won with a quite big margin but still think that Reputation was 2nd because it was so much bigger than other albums. Also, Divide got total 2 nominations overall and Perfect got totally snubbed while SOY got only in Pop Solo but those songs were MASSIVE hits while Taylor didn’t have a big hit from that era. Also agree, Reputation was a great album full of bops, one if not the best from Taylor.
Queen B (D)May 29, 2020 at 6:15 pm #1203508254This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.May 29, 2020 at 9:59 pm #1203508397
Get real! “Delicate” would NOT have been a good Best Pop Solo Performance winner. That song is shitty. BARF!
Delusional Swifties could argue that she got snubbed as a committee decision too and definitely would’ve gotten GF noms across the board if it were by straight vote.May 30, 2020 at 3:03 am #1203508539
I just don’t get the hype about future nostalgia..for me it’s very basicMay 30, 2020 at 3:46 am #1203508557
<p style=”text-align: left;”>I agree that Dua as an artist is really basic overall but Future Nostalgia is a good 80s-inspired pop album with quite a few outstanding songs. Overall, I think Future Nostalgia serves its purpose and would deserve an AOTY nom but nobody is claiming that it’s anything groundbreaking, it’s just a good pop album. Before Future Nostalgia, Dua was just on the level of Bebe Rexha, Ann-Marie, Rita Ora but Futute Nostalgia really elevated her.</p>
Queen B (D)May 30, 2020 at 9:22 am #1203508897
I just don’t get the hype about future nostalgia..for me it’s very basic
Given the current situation we’re in, it’s one of the frontrunner albums in the pop field. While it’s certainly not bad and is somewhat above average, I, too, don’t get the hype.
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