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    Am I the only who cares that The Product G&B were cheated at the 2000 Grammys? How does “Maria Maria” win Pop Duo/Group Performance when it clearly was meant to be filed under the Pop Collaboration with Vocals category (not like it stood a chance over “Smooth” tho)? I think that’s some heavy BS they pulled right there.

    Exactly. I wonder why “Maria Maria” wasn’t placed in R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals. It was huge on urban radio, peaking at #1. They would have stiff competition from the eventual winner, “No Scrubs,” but I bet they would have been credited. I think it would have been very competitive there.

    Eve was also cheated out of a Grammy for “You Got Me” that year. I remember when she was on Jimmy Fallon’s first late night show and she was asked about it. She said she didn’t get why she wasn’t rewarded a Grammy, despite providing vocals to the song. Questlove said that he thinks it had something to do with the amount of folks who received a Grammy for that one song. Eve is still a 2x Grammy winner in my mind, and The Product G&B are Grammy winners at heart as well.

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    Barbra Streisand is overdue for a Traditional Pop Album win.

    “you look like your picture, thank god.”

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    I m kinda mad at dua lipa. She should have mada BMH as promotional single and should have made PHYSICAL as 2nd official single in US. it could have done better than DSN.

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    Exactly. I wonder why “Maria Maria” wasn’t placed in R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals. It was huge on urban radio, peaking at #1. They would have stiff competition from the eventual winner, “No Scrubs,” but I bet they would have been credited. I think it would have been very competitive there. Eve was also cheated out of a Grammy for “You Got Me” that year. I remember when she was on Jimmy Fallon’s first late night show and she was asked about it. She said she didn’t get why she wasn’t rewarded a Grammy, despite providing vocals to the song. Questlove said that he thinks it had something to do with the amount of folks who received a Grammy for that one song. Eve is still a 2x Grammy winner in my mind, and The Product G&B are Grammy winners at heart as well.

    When we even get deeper into the “You Got Me” situation, Jill Scott should’ve been brought up in the conversation, but that’s irrelevant since the version that picked up steam was with The Roots, Erykah and Eve, but for some strange reason, Eve isn’t credited on streaming platforms I use and iTunes. What the heck happened?

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    Honey, Eve was announced on The Talk as a 2X Grammy-Award winner.  I just assumed they counted “You Got Me” as a win.

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    Honey, Eve was announced on The Talk as a 2X Grammy-Award winner. I just assumed they counted “You Got Me” as a win.

    The same show that called “Juice” Grammy-winning.

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    -The Weeknd is most worthy of winning AOTY this year.
    -Hit for hit and album for album, Rihanna murders Beyoncé.
    -It’s cool that Tyler self produced Igor and a lot of his music, but his production sucks and sounds extremely amateur.
    -DAMN! by Kendrick Lamar is a boring and disappointing album.
    -Cardi B is hella talented and Bodak Yellow is one of the best songs of the decade.
    -Travis Scott can’t rap, but he can create a mood album better than almost any artist.
    -Redbone is an infinitely better song than This is America.
    -Mumble rap is often more melodic and sometimes more vocally difficult/complex than lyrical rap.
    -Young Thug and Future should be Grammy winners for solo work and not as featured artists.
    -Metro Boomin should be a Grammy winner for the production on Bad n Boujee or for X by 21 Savage.
    -Lana Del Rey should be a fucking Grammy winner many times over by now.

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    -The Weeknd is most worthy of winning AOTY this year. -Hit for hit and album for album, Rihanna murders Beyoncé. -It’s cool that Tyler self produced Igor and a lot of his music, but his production sucks and sounds extremely amateur. -DAMN! by Kendrick Lamar is a boring and disappointing album. -Cardi B is hella talented and Bodak Yellow is one of the best songs of the decade. -Travis Scott can’t rap, but he can create a mood album better than almost any artist. -Redbone is an infinitely better song than This is America. -Mumble rap is often more melodic and sometimes more vocally difficult/complex than lyrical rap. -Young Thug and Future should be Grammy winners for solo work and not as featured artists. -Metro Boomin should be a Grammy winner for the production on Bad n Boujee or for X by 21 Savage. -Lana Del Rey should be a fucking Grammy winner many times over by now.

    I’ll take you step by step.

    – I’m not hellbent on that After Hours album. I’m not hellbent on anything winning AOTY this year, so, if he wins, I could genuinely care less. With the Grammys, your heart should be trained to accommodate the occasional (or frequent for some) disappointment.

    – IGOR I guess was intentionally poor on production (which, for me, is what I feel robbed him of an AOTY nod).

    – DAMN! to me isn’t extremely disappointing and heck not disappointing at all. I might have had one or two “please skips”s, but that was it where I’m at.

    – Agreed she’s a good performer, and to a slight extent, “Bodak Yellow” is one of the better rap or general music of the decade.

    – Well it’s not that he can’t rap outright. But I get where you’re coming from. His music excels far better in production than it does rapping, which is why, till this day, I 110% support Invasion of Privacy‘s win for Best Rap Album.

    – Agreed. No questions there. “Redbone” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “This Is America.”

    – It’s all rap to me, so, I could care less.

    – Not entirely. When you make statements like “Artist X should be a Grammy winner,” make yourself more plausible by saying the exact ceremony they should have won, in what category and for what work. Just because they are Future and Young Thug doesn’t mean that they’re automatic Grammy magnets.

    – Nah. Neither record of the year nor producer of the year would be fitting, so, nah.

    – For me, my personal favorite Lana project remains Ultraviolence. Had she been nominated in Pop Vocal Album (even though to me it’s more soft rock, but let’s call it pop), she would be against the following:

    Sam Smith – In the Lonely Hour (eventual winner)
    Coldplay – Ghost Stories
    Miley Cyrus – Bangerz
    Ariana Grande – My Everything
    Katy Perry – Prism
    Ed Sheeran – x

    So, by the look of things, Lana practically stood no chance. Not that I prefer any of these albums to Ultraviolence. Hell fucking no. But we should be reminded that the pop category doesn’t have a committee to actually make things look good, so, eventually, it’s what’s popular that gets thrown into this category.

    Other than Ultraviolence, her other nods were fitting, I guess. Out of her nods that I felt she had the most chances, I’d say AOTY for Norman Fucking Rockwell! was her best shot.

    I’m just happy they’ve at least nominated her because, let’s face it, Lana isn’t ideally very competitive, especially given the fact her music fits into the most competitive genre.

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    -Hit for hit and album for album, Rihanna murders Beyoncé.

    Now this is just not true. She has more hits but Rihanna has never made a good album aside from ANTI and even that is a  stretch as its above average at best.

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    Now this is just not true. She has more hits but Rihanna has never made a good album aside from ANTI and even that is a stretch as its above average at best.

    I didn’t even see this one. Maybe my eyes are blinded towards blasphemy lol. And yes, I agree with you. Rihanna does have more hits, but in terms of quality albums, moreover against Beyoncé? Nah. Disagreed 100%.

    Even when it comes to the quality of their music. I know Beyoncé benefited a lot from there being way more categories back in the day, but 24 is a far greater number than 9.

    Rihanna’s music for the most part is built for the now and it succeeds very well at that. But Beyoncé’s is built to last.

    So I completely disagree with the whole Rihanna > Bey thing. All she has on her are hits and numbers basically.

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    – Not entirely. When you make statements like “Artist X should be a Grammy winner,” make yourself more plausible by saying the exact ceremony they should have won, in what category and for what work. Just because they are Future and Young Thug doesn’t mean that they’re automatic Grammy magnets.

    -Young thug:

    • Jeffrey should have beaten Coloring Book by Chance the Rapper for best rap album in 2017. Chance is kind of forgotten while Young Thug is now considered one of the most important rappers of the last decade, and Jeffrey was a really pivotal album for the sound of hiphop.

    -Future:

    • Codeine Crazy should have beaten These Walls by Kendrick for best rap/sung in 2016. Kendrick swept all rap categories that year, but These Walls wasn’t an album highlight and isn’t what TPAB is remembered for. Codeine Crazy was also released on a mixtape so it might not have been eligible, but it is an era defining song.

    -Lana Del Rey:

    • Born to Die should have beaten Kelly Clarkson’s Stronger for Pop Album in 2013. (It wasn’t even nominated)
    • Young & Beautiful should have beaten Skyfall for Best Song Written for Visual Media in 2014
    • Ultraviolence should have beaten In the Lonely Hour by Sam Smith for best pop album, or St. Vincent by St. Vincent for Best Alternative Album in 2015.
    • NFR should have beaten Billie for AOTY and Best Pop Album in 2020.

     

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    Yeah I do agree that some of Rihanna’s older songs were very trendy have aged poorly. Still, Anti is the best album that either Rihanna or Beyoncé have ever made, and Lemonade relies more on its narrative than its musical strength.

    That being said, Lemonade is still a very good album, and is the second best album among all Rihanna and Beyoncé albums.

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    Metro Boomin should have won Best Producer – Nonclassical over Greg Kurstin in 2017.

    In the eligibility period, Metro produced Jumpman, Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1, Lowlife, X, Bad n Boujee (billboard #1) , and Bounce Back (billboard #6), and dozens of other non single tracks for Lil Uzi, The Weeknd, Gucci Mane, Future, and more. On his best beats, his production often outshined the rap performance. Bad n Boujee remains one of the best hiphop beats of all time.

    Greg produced Hello by Adele and Cheap Thrills and The Greatest by Sia during the eligibility period, along with non-single tracks for Gwen Steffani, Tegan & Sara, Carly Rae Jepsen and more. All of these songs are more remembered for the singing and songwriting than for the production.

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    -Young thug:

    • Jeffrey should have beaten Coloring Book by Chance the Rapper for best rap album in 2017. Chance is kind of forgotten while Young Thug is now considered one of the most important rappers of the last decade, and Jeffrey was a really pivotal album for the sound of hiphop.

    -Future:

    • Codeine Crazy should have beaten These Walls by Kendrick for best rap/sung in 2016. Kendrick swept all rap categories that year, but These Walls wasn’t an album highlight and isn’t what TPAB is remembered for. Codeine Crazy was also released on a mixtape so it might not have been eligible, but it is an era defining song.

    -Lana Del Rey:

    • Born to Die should have beaten Kelly Clarkson’s Stronger for Pop Album in 2013. (It wasn’t even nominated)
    • Young & Beautiful should have beaten Skyfall for Best Song Written for Visual Media in 2014
    • Ultraviolence should have beaten In the Lonely Hour by Sam Smith for best pop album, or St. Vincent by St. Vincent for Best Alternative Album in 2015.
    • NFR should have beaten Billie for AOTY and Best Pop Album in 2020.

    Well, I won’t say much on Young Thug other than I feel that Coloring Book album was overrated.

    On Future, nah, I feel “These Walls” deserved the cake either way.

    On Lana, here are my thoughts:

    – I hope you remember how critics panned Born to Die at the time, and while the album has aged well, it didn’t have a strong enough narrative going for it at the time. So, she had near zero chances with this one.

    – Nah. “Skyfall” snatched both the Oscar and Grammy imo.

    – Yes, I agree. But that’s just my taste, and apparently yours too. That pop category really needs a committee. Prayers for the pop category.

    – For me, both albums were neck in neck, but where Billie’s project edged Lana was her brother’s outstanding production. I’d still be happy had it gone to either of them. Same goes for Pop Vocal Album. Idk why Lana didn’t receive a nod, but you can’t tell me Norman Fucking Rockwell! wasn’t better by all standards than the Ed Sheeran project.

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    Metro Boomin should have won Best Producer – Nonclassical over Greg Kurstin in 2017. In the eligibility period, Metro produced Jumpman, Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1, Lowlife, X, Bad n Boujee (billboard #1) , and Bounce Back (billboard #6), and dozens of other non single tracks for Lil Uzi, The Weeknd, Gucci Mane, Future, and more. On his best beats, his production often outshined the rap performance. Bad n Boujee remains one of the best hiphop beats of all time. Greg produced Hello by Adele and Cheap Thrills and The Greatest by Sia during the eligibility period, along with non-single tracks for Gwen Steffani, Tegan & Sara, Carly Rae Jepsen and more. All of these songs are more remembered for the singing and songwriting than for the production.

    Now, I agree. Thanks for putting it in that perspective. Greg had the “Hello” narrative going for him and was part of the 25 sweep, so, it had to happen I guess.

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