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    betty
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    You havent even listened to folklore.

    they sure haven’t because if they paid any remote attention to Taylor’s lyricism on folklore they would realize that their comments are complete and utter misinformed buffoonery. folklore is told from the perspective of several different characters. It’s the first album in her career that isn’t autobiographical. It’s truly a poetic lyrical masterpiece. But this thing like several other haters on this forum will never give it a chance.

    FYC: Taylor Swift
    AOTY: folklore
    ROTY: exile feat. Bon Iver
    SOTY: cardigan
    Pop Solo: cardigan
    PD/G: exile feat. Bon Iver
    PVA: folklore
    Country Solo: betty
    Country Song: betty
    American Roots Performance: seven
    American Roots Song: seven
    Rock Performance: august
    Rock Song: august
    Traditional R&B: False God
    R&B Song: False God
    Song Visual Media: Only The Young
    Song Visual Media: Beautiful Ghosts
    Music Film: Miss Americana
    Music Video: The Man

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    Taylor Swift + lyrical masterpiece = BARF!

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    I agree 100%. There have been much better R&B records than after hours in 2020. Chloe x Halle’s album is better. Just because the quality level of pop albums released by male artist is so shitty ( thanks to beiber), people are considering after hours some sort of masterpiece. In reality, Abel’s album is another basic pop album with shitty lyrics and good production on few songs.

    Listen track by track and re-evaluate. After Hours is, by Grammy definition, Progressive R&B as 51% (almost) of the tracks are derivative of R&B. Here’s a track-by-track genre review:

    “Alone Again”
    Genre: R&B

    “Too Late”
    Genre: R&B with Pop elements

    “Hardest to Love”
    Genre: Pop

    “Scared to Live”
    Genre: Pop with R&B elements

    “Snowchild”
    Genre: R&B

    “Escape from LA”
    Genre: R&B

    “Heartless”
    Genre: R&B

    “Faith”
    Genre: Pop

    “Blinding Lights”
    Genre: Pop

    “In Your Eyes”
    Genre: Pop

    “Save Your Tears”
    Genre: Pop

    “Repeat After Me” (an interlude)
    Genre: R&B

    “After Hours”
    Genre: Pop

    “Until I Bleed Out”
    Genre: R&B

    Number of primarily R&B Tracks: 7 = 50% of the album.

    While it’s not exactly 51% of the album, the fact that the markets this album with singles like “Heartless” and has history as a two-time winner in the category would make him fit for yet another Progressive R&B Album nomination.

    This album is also 50% Pop, so, he’s good to go either way.

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    “August” might be Taylor Swift’s best song that’s how perfect it is.

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    Taylor is not just a songwriter. She’s a literal poet. And her melody composing skills, she’s better than the whole music industry together.

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    “August” might be Taylor Swift’s best song that’s how perfect it is.

    August should be the lead single. It’s the 2nd best song ( delicate is #1) taylor released in last few years.

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    List some people who’ve lost to themselves in any category at all. I remember Beyoncé losing R&B Performance by Duo or Group with Vocals for “Cater 2 U” with Destiny’s Child to her “So Amazing” duet with Stevie Wonder.

    Pharrell Williams lost Pop Duo/Group Performance and ROTY for “Blurred Lines” to “Get Lucky”.

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    Don’t get me wrong. 21 is an amazing album. I love it, It deserved to win. But Born this Way is a much better album and to me it is Lady Gaga’s Magnum Opus. It would have been a great winner for Album of the year as well.

    FYC: Taylor Swift
    AOTY: folklore
    ROTY: exile feat. Bon Iver
    SOTY: cardigan
    Pop Solo: cardigan
    PD/G: exile feat. Bon Iver
    PVA: folklore
    Country Solo: betty
    Country Song: betty
    American Roots Performance: seven
    American Roots Song: seven
    Rock Performance: august
    Rock Song: august
    Traditional R&B: False God
    R&B Song: False God
    Song Visual Media: Only The Young
    Song Visual Media: Beautiful Ghosts
    Music Film: Miss Americana
    Music Video: The Man

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    Right? Kanye is far better lyricist than Taylor.

    Look at his last few albums. They are shitty as hell.

    I respect artists who are making good albums consistently. Some relies on his wife’s daily drama to keep himself relevant.

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    Taylor Swift best songs from her past few albums have been not about love; Soon You’ll Get Better & My Tears Ricochet.

    10/10:

    Fetch the Bolt Cutters, After Hours, RTJ4, and What's Your Pleasure?

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    The Grammys got it right with “Red” in 2014.

    – not only was the album not country enough to win Best Country Album, the eventual winner “Same Trailer Different Park” was a much better album, even though it also might have also been a bit too “pop” for some country music people.
    – given that “Red” wasn’t even the best Country Album, there is no way it should be winning Album of the Year. But even ignoring the fact that Kacey Musgraves had a better country album, “Red” was just not a good enough album. There were some great songs, but the album was not cohesive.

    Instead it sounded like someone had mashed up a Max Matin penned pop EP together with a country album and didn’t even bother to delete the unnecessary filler tracks. Just horrible and a disservice to some of the really good tracks that deserved to be listened to in the context of a better album.

    Perhaps you think Taylor deserved Best Country Song
    – nope, Kacey Musgraves had a better song with “Merry Go Round”

    Perhaps she could have won SOTY or ROTY with better songs, but she didn’t submit her best songs to those categories, just the Max Martin pop singles and those didn’t deserve to win. Maybe a nomination, but nothing that deserved to win over “Royals” and “Get Lucky”.

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    The Grammys got it right with “Red” in 2014. – not only was the album not country enough to win Best Country Album, the eventual winner “Same Trailer Different Park” was a much better album, even though it also might have also been a bit too “pop” for some country music people. – given that “Red” wasn’t even the best Country Album, there is no way it should be winning Album of the Year. But even ignoring the fact that Kacey Musgraves had a better country album, “Red” was just not a good enough album. There were some great songs, but the album was not cohesive. Instead it sounded like someone had mashed up a Max Matin penned pop EP together with a country album and didn’t even bother to delete the unnecessary filler tracks. Just horrible and a disservice to some of the really good tracks that deserved to be listened to in the context of a better album. Perhaps you think Taylor deserved Best Country Song – nope, Kacey Musgraves had a better song with “Merry Go Round” Perhaps she could have won SOTY or ROTY with better songs, but she didn’t submit her best songs to those categories, just the Max Martin pop singles and those didn’t deserve to win. Maybe a nomination, but nothing that deserved to win over “Royals” and “Get Lucky”.

    My opinion of Red is not that harsh, but I do think it’s Taylor’s worst album by far aside from her debut. Like the poster above said, it’s not cohesive at all: it’s this odd mash of Pop and Country that completely clash with each other at all times. WANEGBT, I Knew You Were Trouble, and 22 don’t even sound like they belong in the same album as the rest of the songs on Red, which is just so bizarre. There’s also Stay Stay Stay, which is just awful-easily the worst Taylor Swift song I’ve ever heard-and the afformented We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, which is okay, but problematic because it set the mold for the cookie-cutter Taylor lead single mold with the over-the-top vocals and obnoxious spoken segment that would become much worse in the Reputation and Lover eras with LWYMMD and Me!. And then there’s the fact that Red is so chock full of slow songs that completely drag down the pace of the album. It’s also far too long: 18 tracks is just too many.

    I think the reason why Red is fondly remembered is because of it’s sky-high highs, which really are great. I Knew You Were Trouble is still my favorite Taylor Swift song, and Starlight is now in my Top 3. All Too Well is a phenomenally written, underrated ballad that inspired a lot of the slow songs in Reputation and Lover and all of folklore, 22 is still a super catchy pop anthem, and Taylor’s chemistry with Ed Sheeran in Everything Has Changed and Gary Lightbody in The Last Time (which is very reminiscent of exile) is excellent. Not to mention it has some of her absolute best writing in it. People remember these highs and selectively forget that it just doesn’t work as a cohesive album.

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    Also, while we’re on the topic of Taylor, I didn’t like the “cardigan” music video at all, even though I usually realky like her music videos. It’s pretty to look at, but seems like something anyone could create with a good-enough special effects budget, a green-screen, and a piano. I honestly feel like I could have made that music video if I had Taylor’s money. I know she was limited by the pandemic and probably had to shoot this indoors, but it seems like they coukd have used the green-screen at least a little more creatively. Not to mention it just doesn’t fit with the song, whcih is another problem most music videos have nowadays. Again, Taylor’s music videos don’t normally have this problem: just earlier this year The Man had an excellent music video, so I think it is just the quarantine limitations.

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