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    If the eligibility period ran from January 1st to December 31st, what wins and nominations do you think would be different? Just something that’s fun to think about. This is making the assumption that all release dates would be the same, to prevent things from becoming too complex.

    Under this new timeline, (if we were to just shift the current Grammy timeline) nominations will be announced around late February, with the ceremony in late April or early May. First-Round voting will be in January, Final-Round in March.

    For example:

    If Final-Round voting would’ve taken place in March, I think “Shallow” would’ve managed to nab SOTY after its Oscar win and reaching #1. ASIB would’ve very likely made it into the 2019 AOTY line-up as well, and even be in contention for a win.

    I imagine that Taylor Swift might’ve split GF nominations in 2015 by sending “Shake It Off” to ROTY and “Blank Space” to SOTY (or still going with the latter in both categories).

    My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Watch the Throne would fall into different eligibility periods, likely resulting in an AOTY nom for the former.

    24K Magic wouldn’t have been eligible for the 2018 ceremony (As is the case for Awaken, My Love!), but I can’t think of any obvious safe alternatives to fill its place in AOTY if the Grammys didn’t want to reward Ed Sheeran. Kendrick might’ve taken it. The remaining 2 slots in AOTY might’ve gone to MASSEDUCTION, Ctrl, or From A Room: Volume 1. SZA probably would’ve managed to take home some hardware as well.

    AOTY 2017 is tricky. Lemonade would’ve still definitely been nominated, and 25 would have won the previous year. But if one of the free spots goes to Blackstar (or maybe You Want It Darker), a win isn’t locked up.

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    Boz
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    Hmm, here are some of my thoughts:

    -Gaga would’ve 100% won SOTY (and maybe even ROTY). Shallow’s peak was in March, which (as you stated) would be voting-time in a Jan-Dec season.

    -I think Ariana would’ve been a stronger player in the GF. Thank U, Next would’ve probably gotten ROTY + SOTY noms.

    -I think such a long season would’ve hurted Gambino a bit. A couple of extra months can create an impact.

    Now, other years:
    -Havana (the original version) would’ve gotten a Pop Duo nomination.

    -Someone You Loved, which was released November last year, could’ve been submitted and snubbed, which would spare us of the terrifying idea of that song winning anything.

    -Ella Mai would’ve gotten into BNA. Her album would’ve given her hype. She also could’ve won against Dua IMO.

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    ELIAS
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    Why the hell wouldnt the Grammys not do it year round? My mind does not also comprehend why it takes the Grammys 5 months towards the end of eligibility then let’s say 3 months at most to submit submissions, review them, give nominations, and they vote for them come the Grammy awards. Some of awards would make them seem really old. The Grammys need to fix this error! How silly and stupid!

    Barnacles Bro

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    I think Ariana would’ve been a stronger player in the GF. Thank U, Next would’ve probably gotten ROTY + SOTY noms. 

    I agree! I was wondering if under these circumstances Ariana would still submit the Sweetener songs in the GF and wait until the following year to submit “tu,n” with the rest of the album, but doing this definitely makes the most sense. It maximizes their chances of winning since the hype is still so present (also, splitting the album into two cycles increases the number of nominations that they can receive). I can imagine that she also would’ve been more competitive in Pop Solo, but Gaga would’ve been able to submit an actual ASIB cut and still win.

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    Why the hell wouldnt the Grammys not do it year round? My mind does not also comprehend why it takes the Grammys 5 months towards the end of eligibility then let’s say 3 months at most to submit submissions, review them, give nominations, and they vote for them come the Grammy awards. Some of awards would make them seem really old. The Grammys need to fix this error! How silly and stupid!

    The date of the awards ceremony is the major factor in setting the eligibility period. You don’t want the TV show to clash with major sports events like the Summer or Winter Olympic games.

    You wouldn’t want it to clash with major music festivals either, because a lot of artists would need to skip the Grammys or cancel their music festival appearance, which would upset the fans that had paid hundreds of dollars for tickets.

    You end up with a limited number of suitable weekends in the northern hemisphere winter. Even then it sometimes clashes with southern hemisphere festivals where potential Grammy nominees are booked to perform.

    Of course, there is still no reason the process needs to take 5 months, but ending the eligibility in late December, might not give them enough time before sports seasons have started and touring musicians are out on the road again.

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    They should make the eligibility period December 1st – November 30.

    And just have the ceremony in May.

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    They should make the eligibility period December 1st – November 30. And just have the ceremony in May.

    Why not just end it December 31st lol. It’s still 5 months rather than 6.

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    The date of the awards ceremony is the major factor in setting the eligibility period. You don’t want the TV show to clash with major sports events like the Summer or Winter Olympic games. You wouldn’t want it to clash with major music festivals either, because a lot of artists would need to skip the Grammys or cancel their music festival appearance, which would upset the fans that had paid hundreds of dollars for tickets. You end up with a limited number of suitable weekends in the northern hemisphere winter. Even then it sometimes clashes with southern hemisphere festivals where potential Grammy nominees are booked to perform. Of course, there is still no reason the process needs to take 5 months, but ending the eligibility in late December, might not give them enough time before sports seasons have started and touring musicians are out on the road again.

    If we learned about the Grammys, they are always though some time during award season. Gaga and Bradley Cooper had to choose between going to the Grammys or the BAFTAs. Why not do it during a time where theres no award shows?

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    Gaga and Bradley Cooper had to choose between going to the Grammys or the BAFTAs.

    I’m guessing this isn’t a common occurrence.

    April has the Coachella festival who pays millions to headliners for performing on two weekends.

    Musicians shouldn’t be forced to choose. Remember – music festival performers can get booked up to a year in advance. I’m not sure who would turn down millions to perform at Coachella, so they can be available for a Grammy awards show that might not even nominate them or invite them to perform.

    Late April and early May has New Orleans Jazz Fest, which is also two weekends.
    May also has the Billboard Awards.
    May has several other festivals such as Boston Calling.
    I’m pretty sure Governors Ball is in May (or begins in May) some years.

    Now if you move the Grammy Awards into the middle of festival season, there will be some nominees with festival bookings every year. The Grammys are meant to supporting musicians and the music industry, not competing against the festivals.

    I think they could end the Grammy year in November (just like the Billboard chart year) and have the awards show before the main festival season starts in April.

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    They have to be before Oscar

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    These would have been the AOTY Grammy winners:

    2009: Lady Gaga (The Fame Monster)
    2010: Arcade Fire (The Suburbs)
    2011: Adele (21)
    2012: Taylor Swift (Red)
    2013: Daft Punk (RAM)
    2014: Taylor Swift (1984)
    2015: Adele (25)
    2016: Beyoncé (Lemonade)
    2017: Kendrick Lamar (DAMN.)
    2018: Kacey Musgraves (Golden Hour)

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