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  • Deemy
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    Obviously it wouldn’t be a replacement but it would be nice to have a precursor for the Grammys, especially when it could boost lesser known works. The Grammys are WAY too mainstream-focused instead of quality-focused, especially when compared to the Oscars and Emmys

    It can’t be a “precursor” if it’s not industry voted.

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    King Iantuition
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    It can’t be a “precursor” if it’s not industry voted.

     

    How? The actual Critics Choice Awards are not industry-voted, and neither, for that matter, are the Golden Globes. They are still considered to be precursors to the Academy Awards, which is industry-voted.

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    Best Pop Song (2022) Anti-Hero – Taylor Swift Bad Habit – Steve Lacy Billions – Caroline Polachek Part of the Band – The 1975 Used to Know Me – Charli XCX

    Thanks, I was having a hard time thinking of nominations for songs.

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    Goldwing
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    Okay, so these are some ideas for categories:

     

    Main:

    Album of the year

    Song of the year

    Record of the year

    Video of the year

    Emerging Artist of the Year

    Producer of the Year

     

    Others:

    Best Collaboration

    Best duo or group act

    Best Music Film

     

    Best Pop Song

    Best Pop Album

     

    Best Rap Song

    Best Rap Album

     

    Best Rock Song

    Best Rock Album

     

    Best Alternative Song

    Best Alternative Album

     

    Best R&B Song

    Best R&B Album

     

    Best Contemporary Latin/Iberian Album

    Best Latin/Iberian Song (Pop or Urban)

     

    Best Dance or Electronic Song

    Best Remixed Song

    Best Dance or Electronic Album

     

    Best Country or Folk Song

    Best Country or Folk Album

     

    Best Song for Audiovisual Media

     

    Global:

    Best Contemporary African Act

    Best Asian Contemporary Act

     

    If you want to add or suggest anything you are free to do so, either propose hypothetical nominees or categories.

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    alex.g
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    People would just buy votes from “critics”. Plus they are not musicians so the show wouldn’t have the same prestige. Just accept the fact that even though the Grammys has it faults, no other voting body matters more than your peers. I wish the AMAs would go back to just industry voters.

    Does this vote buying happen in the Critics Choice Movie Awards, or is it more a case of lobbying than vote buying? How would this be different from the lobbying that goes on during Grammy season?

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    JennyLewisFan
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    There seems to be a corruption issue among some critics too though. Like Rolling Stone, for instance, is just a disaster at times from their lists to their reviews and more. Then there are critics that do dumb shit like the one from The Independent giving Donda a flat 0 admittedly (and this is important) because of the controversial featuring acts and not based off the music alone.

     

    So, while I’d love to see the likes of Animal Collective, Caroline Polachek, and Kelela hold some form of award for their work someday, I’ll settle for the lists from the critics I’ve grown to have some respect for and, more importantly, my own damn opinion.

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    You mean if there was a trifecta/regionals for music the way there is for films? I’m guessing

    Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and Guardian would be the “trifecta” in the sense of being amongst the most prestigious while other publictions like Billboard, NYT, The Skinny would be regionals. People like Beyonce (Lemonade and Renaissance) and Kendrick (TPAB and Damn) would sweep the trifecta more than once as well as storming heavily with regionals. Fiona Apple and Lana could do the sweep their respective years or at least 2/3. Pre 2020s Kanye would probably be like a Paul Thomas Anderson in which almost all of his work gets a citation. Fun to speculate.

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    You mean if there was a trifecta/regionals for music the way there is for films? I’m guessing

    Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and Guardian would be the “trifecta” in the sense of being amongst the most prestigious while other publictions like Billboard, NYT, The Skinny would be regionals. People like Beyonce (Lemonade and Renaissance) and Kendrick (TPAB and Damn) would sweep the trifecta more than once as well as storming heavily with regionals. Fiona Apple and Lana could do the sweep their respective years or at least 2/3. Pre 2020s Kanye would probably be like a Paul Thomas Anderson in which almost all of his work gets a citation. Fun to speculate.

    Oh, sorry I am answering this message really late. I don’t really know how that trifecta thing works. What I had in mind at first was to have representatives from each of those sites (Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, The Guardian, Vulture, etc.) do direct voting for nominees and winners. I’m open to learning about other voting methods.

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    Goldwing
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    Seriously sorry for the delay, I have been redoing and expanding the hypothetical list of nominees and it has been particularly difficult especially with the songs because they do not appear on pages like Metacritic. So to determine I had to go through several Year End lists and find matches or who ranked highest (in some cases choosing personally). I probably snubbed someone but believe me I struggled with this.

    I also made the somewhat drastic decision to go outside of the Grammy guidelines and move the eligibility date from November 2021 to October 2022 (because honestly the October entries get very old for the next period) so you will see some changes to the list as well as adding the amount of nominees in some genres and in the top categories (AOTY being the only one with 10 spots).

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    Critics Choice Music Awards 2023, the nominees:

    Best Pop Álbum:
    30 by Adele
    Harry’s House by Harry Styles
    Caprisongs by FKA twigs
    Hold the Girl by Rina Sawayama
    Midnights by Taylor Swift
    Dawn FM by The Weeknd

    Best Rap Álbum:
    Aethiopes by Billy Woods
    Cheat Codes by Danger Mouse & Black Thought
    The Forever Story by J.I.D.
    Drill Music in Zion de Lupe Fiasco
    Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers by Kendrick Lamar
    It’s Almost Dry by Pusha T

    Best Alternative Álbum:
    The Car by Arctic Monkeys
    Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You by Big Thief
    Ants From Up There by Black Country, New Road
    Preacher’s Daughter by Ethel Cain
    Prioritise Pleasure by Self Esteem
    Wet Leg by Wet Leg

    Best R&B Álbum:
    age/sex/location by Ari Lennox
    Angels & Queens – Part I by Gabriels
    Blue Water Road by Kehlani
    Hypnos by Ravyn Lenae
    Natural Brown Prom Queen by Sudan Archives
    Gemini Rights by Steve Lacy

    Best Rock Álbum:
    Back From The Dead by Halestorm
    Skinty Fia by Fontaines D.C.
    Hellfire by Black Midi
    PAINLESS by Nilüfer Yanya
    Supernova by Nova Twins
    The Overload by Yard Act

    Best Dance or Electronic Album:
    Renaissance by Beyonce
    Fragments by Bonobo
    Pray For Me I Don’t Fit In by Melt Yourself Down
    Miracle in Transit by Naked Flames
    Multitude by Stromae

    Best Country Album:
    American Heartbreak by Zach Bryan
    Palomino by Miranda Lambert
    Ashley McBryde Presents: Lindeville by Ashley McBryde
    Humble Quest by Maren Morris
    Raised by Hailey Whitters

    Best Americana or Folk Album:
    The Sorrow Songs by Angeline Morrison
    The New Faith by Jake Blount
    Good and Green Again by Jake Xerxes Fussell
    Crooked Tree by Molly Tuttle & Golden Highway
    Bronco by Orville Peck

    Best Album in Spanish:
    Un Verano Sin Ti by Bad Bunny
    Tinta y Tiempo by Jorge Drexler
    Marchita by Silvana Estrada
    De Todas Las Flores by Natalia Lafourcade
    Motomami by Rosalia

    Outstanding Group:
    Black Country, New Road
    Big Thief
    Gabriels
    Fontaines D.C
    Nova Twins
    Wet Leg

    Outstanding Collaboration:
    Ojitos Lindos by Bad Bunny, Bomba Estéreo
    Beg for You by Charli XCX, Rina Sawayama
    Persuasive (Remix) by Doechii, SZA
    Wait for U by Future, Drake & Tems
    F.N.F. (Let’s Go) by Hitkidd, GloRilla
    Cash In Cash Out by Pharrell Williams, 21 Savage & Tyler, The Creator
    Spitting Off the Edge of the World by Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Perfume Genius

    Producer of the Year:
    Jack Antonoff (Midnights)
    Kid Harpoon (Harry’s House)
    NOVA WAV (Renaissance)
    Sounwave (Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers)
    Jahaann Sweet (Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers)
    Michael Uzowuru (Motomami)

    Emerging Artist of the Year:
    Ari Lennox
    Omar Apollo
    Zach Bryan
    Ethel Cain
    Glorilla
    MUNA
    Wet Leg

    Video of the Year:
    D.M.B. by A$AP Rocky
    Ancestress by Björk
    King by Florence + the Machine
    Saoko by Rosalia
    All Too Well (10 Minute Version) by Taylor Swift
    No One Dies From Love by Tove Lo
    Out of Time by The Weeknd

    Song of the Year:
    American Teenager by Ethel Cain
    All Too Well (10 Minute Version) by Taylor Swift
    As It Was by Harry Styles
    Bad Habit by Steve Lacy
    Break My Soul by Beyonce
    F.N.F. (Let’s Go) by Hitkidd, GloRilla
    Spitting Off the Edge of the World by Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Perfume Genius
    Tití me preguntó by Bad Bunny

    Álbum of the Year:
    30 by Adele
    Un Verano Sin Ti by Bad Bunny
    Renaissance by Beyonce
    Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe in You by Big Thief
    Skinty Fia by Fontaines D.C.
    Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers by Kendrick Lamar
    Motomami by Rosalia
    A Light for Attracting Attention by The Smile
    Midnights by Taylor Swift
    Wet Leg by Wet Leg

    That’s all from me for now. I will make a continuation of this thread at the end of the year when the Year End lists appear.

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    Critics Choice Music Awards 2023, the nominees: 

    This is surprisingly a very good list! I wish the Grammys would look like this

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    Honestly I don’t need any precursor to the Grammys. For me the Grammys night is much more emotional than the Oscars because anything can happen. Same with the nominations day. If there were serious precursor, then winners would be more predictable. VMA, BBMAs and AMAs are spaces to campaign and be considered as relevant in an eligible year. That’s enough.

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    Lana Del Rey would win everything

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