September 24, 2015 at 7:42 pm #412572
Rap always has an uphill battle in the general field, but it has won Album (OutKast, to a degree Lauryn Hill) and New Artist (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, Arrested Development, Lauryn Hill again). But never Record of the Year or Song of the Year. Even when there’s an Oscar winner in the mix like Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” or the biggest hit of the year like “Empire State of Mind.” And they’re almost never nominated for the top songwriting award.
Even pop or R&B songs with some rap in them don’t win (“Crazy in Love,” “Umbrella”). What gives, and what will it finally take for rap to win those awards?September 24, 2015 at 8:33 pm #412574
It would have to take something like a Neo-Soul/The Roots-like production that crosses over majorly to even have a chance, tbh. Those type of songs doesn’t see success, so they wouldn’t be anywhere near Record of the Year, for starters.September 25, 2015 at 6:00 am #412575
A Macklemore song might pull it off one day in ROTY with major support and actually making it into the category.September 25, 2015 at 11:25 am #412576
It would be so shtty if the first award for rap in Record/Song were for someone like Macklemore.
September 25, 2015 at 11:34 am #412577
It would be either Macklemore or Eminem. If Eminem gets another “Lose Yourself” with thoughtful lyrics, and still is a huge hit then it could work.
FYC: Ready Player One. Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects, Original Score, Production Design, Director and BEST PICTURE (make it happen Oscars!!)September 25, 2015 at 11:38 am #412578
Yeah, it would be a white rapper that would have the best chances, right?September 25, 2015 at 11:49 am #412579
The major thing it would take is more accepting voting bloc. The only thing that has prevented Rap from winning is voters with access to that category who aren’t “comfortable” with making that choice. Really. That’s literally it.September 25, 2015 at 12:07 pm #412580
I hope we’re on the track to get a powerful, inspiring rap song into ROTY or SOTY. Something that speaks to social justice, ala Kendrick Lamar’s “Alright” would be a great start.September 25, 2015 at 2:20 pm #412581
Yeah, it would be a white rapper that would have the best chances, right?
It’s sad, but it may be true. In hip-hop and otherwise, Grammy voters often gravitate towards artists who are nonthreatening, white, or both. It’s a consistent pattern.September 25, 2015 at 2:38 pm #412582
A rap song has a much better chance of winning SOTY then ROTY.
Pre-dominantly live instrumentation is a key component in ROTY winners
which is rare in Rap Songs.February 18, 2016 at 10:31 am #412583
Huh. I checked through the records, and I think the ONLY rap songs that got both noms are both by Eminem (Lose Yourself, Love the Way You Lie).
With triple noms in Album and Record, he certainly seems the most primed to eventually win some general field award. Being 0 of 8 seems a tad silly.February 18, 2016 at 5:46 pm #412584
NARAS would have to get a new, younger hip voting membership in order for a rap song to win Record of the Year and/or Song of the Year.February 18, 2016 at 6:15 pm #412585
A Eminem song featuring one of these popstars, except Rihanna.February 18, 2016 at 10:04 pm #412586
Unreal! Once again with the white rapper thing. Like no black person has ever won ROTY/SOTY.
For a rap song to win ROTY/SOTY it is going to take a little while. Maybe within the next decade or so. Right now live instrumentation (in ROTY) and love/romantic lyrics (in SOTY) are the winning choices.
Eminem had its career peak in the early 2000s and he’d always lose in the general field. He made a comeback and lost again. Eminem will never have the same amount of fame and acclaim he had before. So, if he didn’t win for “Lose Yourself”, “Love the Way You Lie” or “Without Me”. He’s not winning for anything else he might release. He’s not relevant anymore.
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