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December 2, 2019 at 5:40 pm #1203212606
Ehh, I still think this category is between Truth Hurts and Someone You Loved.
Parasite — Best Picture, Original Screenplay, Film Editing
Bong Joon Ho — Best Director
Florence Pugh — Best Supporting Actress
Charlize Theron — Best Actress
Avengers Endgame — Visual Effects
JoJo Rabbit — Adapted ScreenplayDecember 2, 2019 at 6:39 pm #1203212732
It’s kinda funny how half of the nominees are best written songs (“Bring My Flowers Now”, “Norman fucking Rockwell”, “Hard Place”, “Always Remember Us This Way”) are the least likely to win.
I consider “Lover” and “Someone You Loved” right in the middle of the pack; Lover is obviously better than SYL, but they’re both basic love ballads that are safe choices for a win but not particularly exciting.
That leaves “bad guy” and “Truth Hurts”, the two that fit the bill of past SOTY winners. When comparing the two, Truth Hurts stands out lyrically much more than bad guy; the beauty in bad guy is its production in my opinion. I would prefer one of the four better written songs to win, but since there’s a slim to none chance that that will happen, I’m going to have to go with Truth Hurts to win.December 2, 2019 at 8:02 pm #1203212847
I just heard bring my flowers now. And wow! If that’s not the most beautiful song I’ve ever heard then I don’t what is. If Taylor doesn’t get this, then Miss Tanya can. Heck I will move Flowers to my number 1 pick.December 2, 2019 at 10:55 pm #1203213016
How is ARUTW “well written”?
“You look at me and, baby, I wanna catch on fire”
“Every time we say goodbye, baby, it hurts”
“When you look at me and the whole world fades”
ugh really? cliche and basic afDecember 3, 2019 at 6:43 am #1203213370
“Always Remember Us This Way,” “Lover,“ “Norman fucking Rockwell” and “Someone You Loved” ain’t well-written.December 3, 2019 at 11:11 am #1203213748
“You look at me and, baby, I wanna catch on fire”
This is actually a clever line because it plays on the preceding one: “The Arizona sky burning in your eyes.”
It’s a simple but effective love song. “Lover” is not better lyrically. It’s a better production than it is a song. The lyrics are extremely cheesy… “I take this magnetic force of a man to be my lover” being exhibit A.December 3, 2019 at 11:48 am #1203213889
Hard Place, Truth Hurts, Bring My Flowers Now, and Norman Fucking Rockwell are the only nominees with lyrics that are above average. ARUTW is kinda cheesy but effective. The others are ass.December 3, 2019 at 12:11 pm #1203213958
how are you gonna say one song is cheesy and then say truth hurts has above average lyrics just cuz it has a few overdone sassy quotes
lover is of course cheesy to the max, fortunately I’m not lactose intolerantDecember 3, 2019 at 12:21 pm #1203213989
People need to stop pretending that “Truth Hurts” is anything more than lightweight.December 3, 2019 at 12:27 pm #1203214004
I love the song and I love Lizzo and am actually rooting for it in both ROTY/SOTY… but yeah it’s lightweight. It’s basically a bunch of instagram quotes.December 3, 2019 at 12:28 pm #1203214008
People need to stop pretending that “Truth Hurts” is anything more than lightweight.
Basically everything Billie Eilish does is lightweight, but that never stopped you from campaigning for her on these boards.
“Truth Hurts” and Lizzo don’t take themselves seriously. They are meant to be lightweight.December 3, 2019 at 12:34 pm #1203214024
Why does everyone use the nominations for Best Pop Solo Performance as evidence for the Song of the Year category? Unfortunately, for some reason, there are not two distinct categories for Best Pop Song and Best Pop Solo Performance as is the case for most, if not all, other genres. However, in those genres, there is most definitely a distinction between the *song* and the *performance.* While ‘Truth Hurts’ and ‘Bad Guy’ both received more votes than ‘Someone You Loved,’ ‘Always Remember Us This Way,’ and ‘Norman Fucking Rockwell’ for Best Pop Solo *Performance,* there is absolutely NO relevant data to predict how they will vote when these songs are placed together in a category focused on the *songwriting* aspect of each.
I see this ‘evidence’ cited over and over and don’t get how it gets repeated as gospel. Additionally, if the top 5 are chosen by each voter checking off 5 songs from a laundry list, this is NOT a “popular vote” at all. If a song like “Truth Hurts” was split by a lot of 3rd-choice and a lot of unofficial 10th-choice ‘votes’ but squeezed in, while “ARUTW” received a handful of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ‘votes’ but majority of unofficial 6th-choice ‘votes’ then it is impossible to predict the voting behavior when the selections are narrowed to 8/5 songs.
There was a clear direction to reward songwriting this year since the ROTY/SOTY choices look more varied than ever before; looking at the rest of the nominations and thinking that translates to meaningful data is simply not right.
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