May 27, 2013 at 3:42 pm #544722
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."May 27, 2013 at 3:47 pm #544724
Hmm, maybe I should have included 24 as a fifth option.
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."May 27, 2013 at 5:47 pm #544725
^ Yes, I would’ve voted for 24.May 27, 2013 at 6:29 pm #544726
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."May 27, 2013 at 7:39 pm #544727
Why is Game of Thrones included? And why is Breaking Bad excluded? Or The Sopranos?May 27, 2013 at 8:11 pm #544728
Game of Thrones is an epic with a billion characters and storylines in a newly-created universe. Breaking Bad and The Sopranos showcase contemporary characters in linear-format storytelling.
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."May 27, 2013 at 9:02 pm #544729
I completely agree with thedemonhog. How can you even question Game of Thrones spot on that list. The sheer size of the cast, the budget, the locations, the many characters and story lines makes it ambitious tv. Along with the fact that it lies in the fantasy genre. Although I believe that Breaking Bad could make the list due to its originality: protagonist become antagonist in a way. I was too young when the sopranos came out but I believe it was a break away from the conventional tv story telling (a serialised show??). It could be considered ambitious for this. Also agree that 24 should be on the list for its method of story telling.
But I am voting for Lost. It had a large cast with interwoven storylines and used a nonlinear format. It delved into time travel, history and science. Also it was very serialised and required you to watch every episode to understand (or nearly understand haha) the plot. Amazing showMay 27, 2013 at 9:16 pm #544730
Game of Thrones isn’t as artistically ambitious, for a lack of a better word, as The Sopranos.May 27, 2013 at 9:41 pm #544731
The Sopranos was very ambitious, and so is Breaking Bad. Mad Men also. Those are all dramas that are nto afraid to make big statements and have very intricate structure.May 27, 2013 at 10:07 pm #544732
All in the Family was very ambitious for its time.
From the show’s wikipedia page:
The show broke ground in its depiction of issues previously considered unsuitable for U.S. network television comedy, such as racism, homosexuality, women’s liberation, rape, miscarriage, abortion, breast cancer, the Vietnam War, menopause, and impotence.
Without 24 and All in the Family as options I voted for Game of Thrones’ massive landscape and characters.May 28, 2013 at 4:13 am #544733
Maybe you shouldve included the following!!!!
ANGELS IN AMERICA
RICH MAN, POOR MAN
ELEANOR AND FRANKLIN
SIX FEET UNDER
I suppose you are young!!! LOLMay 28, 2013 at 4:41 am #544734
I do think that there are many shows missing from the list. But I’ll focus on 2 of them.
24: its method of storytelling, real time, split screens, one whole day. That was groundbreaking and it still is. There’s nothing like it. Daring, Suspenseful, always surprising. 24 showed just how great action-driven entertainment can be. it remains one of the best TV series of all time.
Mad Men: I know some won’t agree, but I feel Mad Men totally changed the face of TV. You’ve got subtle actors telling subtle stories with subtle complexities. Some might call it slow or boring. I call it a fascinating masterpiece. In fact, it was so unlike anything else on TV in 2007, that it took me 3 episodes to get into it. I just didn’t get it. The acclaim. Then I sat down and watched those 3 episodes. And by that final montage in episode 6 “Babylon”, I was drooling.May 28, 2013 at 8:54 am #544735
It seems that some are interpreting “ambitious” more along the lines of “important” or “impactful” than I had intended.
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."May 28, 2013 at 10:39 am #544736
This is a very constricted list. Any sci-fi show could be called ambitious, even if it didn’t fully succeed in a long term.
Breaking Bad is ambitious too. 24. The Sopranos. ER was an ambitious bet back in the 90’s, with the steady cam, long scenes, medical terms and strong focus on the medicine. To be honest, any show that brought something new and fresh and broke the conventional system can be called ambitious.
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