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  • Atypical
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    Season premiere was tonight! I didn’t realize it was happening now, but I won’t drop the ball next time.

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    Atypical
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    Where to start? So many changes from how Lifetime approached this, but certainly more money involved. Yay Bravo $$$! 250K grand prize is insane (more than the All-Stars are getting, BTW), and even 50K in start-up business money. More money at Mood. Judging panel is meh. Besides Queen Nina, I’m not familiar with any of the others, and no one has the pop of Michael Kors or Isaac Mizrahi (though anything’s better than Zac Posen). The episode started as a viewing party with initial designs from home, so that was off to me. Just here we go with no contestsnt introductions or casting special. Everything is grander. Runway, sew room, stew room, and the swanky residence scenes, which Lifetime didn’t bother caring about. Bravo did in the past iterations though. Christian Siriano is no Tim Gunn, but I like that he’s as supportive as he is to the designers and closer to their respective ages. The model host is certainly no Heidi. Liked the new group. Very diverse, some international contenders, mostly women, all ages, sexual orientations, inclusive-sized models, and surprisingly, the first transgender model in “Project Runway” history! Go Mimi! I teared up over her sad backstory. Frankie really endeared herself here, showing that kindness will still get you somewhere in this awful world. But I wouldn’t have kept her around if judged solely by her runway look, which was indeed wretched. Kavanuagh had an utterly horrible, haughty personality, but I at least saw some design potential there. I do wonder if Christian will get a save this season like Tim Gunn did. That might be cool, so maybe this will be introduced later on. Nice start to the revamp. I’m hopeful for this season despite all the structural changes and dearly departed Heidi and Tim.

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    I enjoyed the first episode, even though watching parts of it without Heidi and Tim felt strange. This seems like a strong crop of designers, and most of them turned out things that looked pretty good or at least interesting. It seemed pretty likely that the bottom two would be Cavanagh and Frankie from pretty early on, that they definitely set them up as likable vs. unlikable. It’s hard to say, but I think I’d have gone the same way the judges did. I couldn’t look at Cavanagh’s outfit and see where that would have been going to make it feel worthwhile. Frankie’s definitely looked worse, but it seemed like it was maybe going to something cool, even though, really, I think even if her design had come out the way she was originally intending, it wouldn’t have been great. It kind of stinks how often, especially in early challenges, the designers that falter are the ones with the larger models.

    In terms of the rest, some of the changes were good. The prizes this season sound really great. The workroom looks cool and the apartments where they live seem nice (though apparently the beds aren’t comfortable). It also felt like the designers were getting more time and more money to start. Giving just one day for the first challenge and a half hour for the first trip to Mood would always seem unduly harsh to me. I think I will grow to like the panel of judges. Elaine brings a vibe that I think the show was mostly getting before only from guest judges, and I like that. Brandon will probably work on developing his quips. The comment he made to Cavanagh about having enough money left over to buy a drink was kind of funny but didn’t really have the kind of punch that a Michael Kors comment would in its place. One the one hand, Christian as the mentor is good because he’s been a contestant, is a younger working designer whose work is very talked about, and really seems to be good with the group. On the downside, there was just a level of trust with Tim Gunn where you could just accept his advice and not be second guessing too much if he really knows what he’s talking about. It was a pretty firm rule in the past that if Tim told you something, you were a fool to ignore it. That doesn’t feel as ironclad with Christian, so it makes the show probably more interesting but also tougher for the designers. I’m assuming that both Christian and Karlie will develop their voices/personas/shtick a little more as the season progresses. Right now, a lot of it just feels like a mild imitation of what Tim and Heidi were doing.

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    Episode Title: “The Future Is Here!”

    Synopsis: The remaining designers are challenged to create a mini-collection showcasing the future of fashion; the designers find out their models will be transformed with special effects body modifications, insipired by Simon Huck’s “A Human” exhibit; another contestant is eliminated from the competition.

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    vinny
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    Hester…..interesting designer. kinda fun kinda annoying. Kovid Kapoor…..I’ve actually met. He knows my cousin and was at her wedding. Nice guy.

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    Hmmmm. I think that the wrong team won (should have been the back gills one), and both Frankie and Kovid should have been double-eliminated. No need to keep deadweight on any longer than necessary! I’m also curious if Christian Siriano will get a chance to save a designer this season like Tim Gunn used to. I’d actually like to see that as a web series competition, since this is a “new” “Project Runway” and all. At the halfway point of the season, bring back some designers to compete for a slot in the final 4 or 5. Model it like “Last Chance Kitchen” or something where one designer is eliminated concurrently with the main show. That show can then be Emmy-nominated for the short-form web series whatevers. Anyways, inventive episode. Judging panel is still the pits beyond Queen Nina Garcia. I thought that Christian would pop more as mentor, TBH. More inner bitch and less empty platitudes.

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    I love this idea about the web series for an eliminated designer to get back in. They should take that idea and run with it.

    The best moment in this episode was when Boss Woman Tessa found time to micromanage a different team, asking Nadine if she could modify her design to give Hester some fabric and Nadine told her to “get from over here.” The balls on Tessa, man, and Hester honestly, after she insisted on other fabrics being put back so she could get all that tulle and then trying to use someone else’s fabric, which she took, cut up, and didn’t even use. Nadine calling her Freddy Kruger was also great. I slightly preferred team back gills as well, but I was happy for Sebastian to get the win. I felt for Frankie, but she deserved the boot, if only because she has proven twice now that she can’t manage the time she’s given. Though, I would have named team necklace as the losers. Their looks were more put together, but I really disliked them.

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    Episode Title: “All the Rage”

    Synopsis: The remaining designers are tasked with creating head-to-toe looks using a single print; celebrity stylist Marni Senofonte surprises the designers by lending her expertise in this go-big or go-home challenge; another contestant is eliminated from the competition.

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    Good riddance, Nadine! I hate designers who treat plus-sized models so poorly and then blame that for their mediocrity in designing for real women. Deplorable attitude that I’m glad the judges called her out on in judging. Finally Brandon Maxwell shows some spark in his critiques, or maybe this just set off a nerve in him that needed to be voiced. I would have picked Sebastian to win again over Hester, but that would have made for boring reality television. The weirdo blue-haired girl who no one understood or appreciated has found her voice and is letting her freak flag fly! Eh, that’s a tired narrative, but whatever. What Sebastian designed was utter perfection, and frankly, what better statement could the show make at this current point in time than a poor immigrant housekeeper with an incredible aesthetic gift going all the way to winning “Project Runway” as a living embodiment of the “American Dream”? Anyways, print challenges are always fun. I wish they could have designed their own textiles. Marni was awesome. A double elimination with Rowan going home would have been fine too. Ignore Christian Siriano at your own peril, bitches! Next challenge is unconventional materials! Let the meltdowns begin!

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    I hate the new host of project runway. She’s stiff and boring and I hate to hear her speak it’s actually sound so phony. what make them put Christian as a mentor I don’t know my mother would have been much better Christian has no zas. I don’t see any kind of mental and said that he’s doing so far. They need to do something before the show is ruined and loses it’s fan. I do like the new challenges that they have but I can’t stand the host in the mentor. Now the one thing I really do like if the freshness of the new judges. I love here in the side comments that they make as the models walk the runway. I love hearing what they really think and not what they pretend for the television audience

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    I liked Nadine so much the previous week, but in this episode she was like three bad Project Runway doomed contestants rolled into one (the older woman/mom-type who decides they can’t adjust to the competition, the negative person who responds to criticism of their work with hostile preemptive rejection, and of course the contestant who is somehow utterly undone by having to work with a non-waif model). You would think anyone who comes onto this show would by now know better than to get on the runway and start blaming their model’s size for their failures, but here we go again. As much as I didn’t like Rakan’s decision to get the dullest print at Mood and then assume that Christian secretly loved his look, there were some interesting (albeit bananas) things going on with his look. Nadine’s had pretty much no redeeming qualities at all.

    Overall, this was a fun challenge, and I liked many of the looks. I wished so many of them hadn’t done the same type of thing, with like four layers of the fabric draped over them and something being revealed on the runway. I wasn’t a fan of the prints chosen by either Hester or Kovid, but I guess I can see why the judges liked them. I would have given Sebastian an easy second win. His look was incredible and also one of the few that didn’t look like it must have been constructed as part of a “PRINTS!” challenge.

    Next week should be fun. These look like the least conventional materials I’ve seen them have to use in quite some time.

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    Good riddance, Nadine! I hate designers who treat plus-sized models so poorly and then blame that for their mediocrity in designing for real women.

    agree 1000% … she was terrible to her model

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    Episode Title: “Survive in Style”

    Synopsis: The remaining designers are whisked away for a camping trip and challenged to create survival chic looks while embracing the wilderness for their first unconventional materials challenge; another contestant is eliminated from the competition.

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    Good for Renee in winning the unconventional materials challenge that she dreaded! Sly editing there, and Christian also doubting her literalness (“It’s just a tarp!”) added to the easy possibility of another winner. Hester would have been my choice again. She’s really finding her voice and embracing her oddball aesthetics for all that they’re worth. Poor Afa. Kovid would have been my clear choice for elimination with his hideous design. He also annoys me to no end, but his time is coming eventually. Really liked the outdoors unconventional materials challenge and fighting the elements like the designers had to do. It’s also very obvious how much more money Bravo invests in this show versus Lifetime. Setting up the runway and makeup/hair/lounge tents in the damn woods, transportation for staff and models, and in general, the swanky and expensive Brooklyn penthouse, increased Mood budgets, Beyoncé’s stylist for the SECOND time, etc. I didn’t realize Bravo had it like this. I guess the awful “Housewives” franchises are more lucrative than I ever realized. I’d imagine that the judges are paid hansdsomely as well.

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    It was really fun watching everyone deal with the outdoors aspects of the challenge and try to interpret what they were supposed to do with that. I’m glad Renee got the win, but I certainly wouldn’t have picked it as a top design. When her model walked the runway, it just looked like a bunch of stuff thrown together to me, but once the judges were taking a closer look, I could appreciate the design elements of it. Christian had me convinced that she’d be in the bottom. There were also a couple of other designs that seemed truly like a pile of garbage, and some of them weren’t even in the bottom three. I would have eliminated Jamall, but given that wasn’t an option, it seems like it should have been Kovid rather than Afa. The judges were critiquing him for things that the other designers totally skated on, like how they dinged him a couple of times for his model Mimi being cold, as if Tessa’s model was so snug in her vest and pasties, which they seemed to really like. This was one again a week where, even seeing the designs, I could not have guessed the winner or the loser.

    Having Marni with Christian for critiques for two challenges now has been great. It brings the mentoring up to a level that I think now approaches what Tim Gunn was doing for the contestants. As great as Christian is, he just doesn’t have that feeling of wisdom that Tim did, but Marni’s added expertise makes up for it in a lot of ways. I’m also still missing Heidi’s sparkle and personality.

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