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    I don’t entirely buy anything for This Is Us. I would be way more surprised if it won drama series than if it was completely snubbed in nominations. The Crown is also really overrated by GD members and the “experts”, Westworld and Stranger Things should be in the conversation to win before the crown.

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    I am so offended by the This is Us confidence that I just took out Chrissy Metz for Elizabeth Marvel.

    Yeah I’ve given up on those chats and slugfests cuz they’re just weird. Riley, I noticed you haven’t popped up in any of those yet, will you be doing one soon?

    I imagine that I pop up toward the end of the month once this round of interviews is over. The slugfests that have been recorded so far this season have either been face-to-face in Los Angeles, among the full-time editors (plus Zach) or spearheaded by Ralph (with enough people without me).

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    The Experts have This is Us at #2 and the senior Editors have it at #1. Both groups have Chrissy Metz at #1 (plus Sterling K. Brown at #1 and Ron Cephas Jones at #4).

    NBC must be paying quite the money I guess.

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    I highly doubt that Moore and Ventimiglia are the reasons people watch this show. They do what is required of them, but I haven’t seen them do anything remotely award-worthy.

    The reason people watch this show is because it’s a tearjerker. It’s superficial and all, but it does make people feel good about themselves/their family.

    If it was up to me, the show would only get two nominations. “Memphis” for writing and Jones for Supporting Actor. The EP of the show said in some interview they let their writers and actors take centre stage.. So IMO those two nominations would be more than enough for this type of show.

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    In the Gold Derby videos they talk why they put a certain show in their predictions, but I’m curious why there is so much confidence that so many new shows will enter the Drama Series race.

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    Eric Deggans of NPR redeems his hideous comedy actress choices by being the only one who goes out on a limb and says Bell deserves a nomination. But none of them obviously saw The Good Place and determined it’s a much better show than, say, Insecure. And what’s with the love for I Love Dick. What channel is that show on?

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    The Good Place is better than Insecure, let’s be real here.

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    In a year w/o Game of Thrones, The Crown and This Is Us are the default drama series frontrunners. The former is the most expensive show ever that looks like a movie on an streaming service looking to have a breakthrough ear with nominations. The latter is the surprise network hit of the season.

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    That is not the issue. They are not rooting for something out of the box. They are making questionable assumptions about what is inside.

    In the Tom/Pete videos and in the Tom/Paul/Marcus/Daniel videos, they pose these questions among others:
    1. Will The Crown or This is Us win?
    2. Will Stranger Things and Westworld get nominated?

    Before taking into account statistics and precursors and all of that, I take issue with treating The Crown and This is Us as default frontrunners. It is not 1990. There is this idea that the pundits have that these two are classic Emmy bait, but classic Emmy bait does not work at the Emmys anymore. Classic Emmy bait has been stumbling in recent years. Boardwalk Empire and House of Cards never amounted to much after big names won for directing their pilots. In the drama categories, Downton Abbey only won for Maggie Smith above the line. The Good Wife was pretty much limited to acting nominations. Billions was shut out. Vinyl got only a few technical nominations. We are in an age now where the ultimate Emmy bait is apparently a serialized fantasy epic; it won twenty-four times in the last two years.

    Then there is this idea that the Emmys might not go for Stranger Things and Westworld. Look, whenever you have a new show, genre or not, there is that question. But that question expires when we get the answer. They say in the videos how the PGA and SAG wins for Stranger Things put it on the map, which is unfair. A Critics’ Choice win puts a show on the map. A Golden Globe puts a show on the map. A win from PGA or SAG is way past that point. A PGA or SAG win is actual Emmy voters telling us how they intend to vote at the Emmys, all things being equal.

    The guilds are opinion polls of voters. If a show gets nominated by like all of them and then variably wins, how is there any question whether voters will respond to that show? There has never been a drama nominated for PGA/DGA/WGA/SAG Ensemble and snubbed at the Emmys, which have historically had only five slots. Plus they got nominated by the broader below-the-line guilds like ACE and CAS (and several more), indicating widespread support. These two are as locked as can be for nominations.

    Despite all of this, people dismiss the guilds. Whatever, you do you. But Stranger Things and Westworld have also been nominated in the series categories by the Golden Globes, Critics’ Choice and the Satellite Awards. The only Best Drama Series lists that have left off Stranger Things and/or Westworld in the last year are the predictions of various pundits here.

    Beautiful.

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