Home Forums Television 14 Emmy experts now making bold predictions at Gold Derby

14 Emmy experts now making bold predictions at Gold Derby

CREATE A NEW TOPIC
CREATE A NEW POLL
Viewing 14 posts - 31 through 44 (of 44 total)
Created
2 years ago
Last Reply
2 years ago
43
replies
7336
views
20
users
leothescorpio
7
Riley Chow
4
Pulp
4
  • Pulp
    Participant
    Joined:
    Feb 13th, 2017
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202115867

    I don’t entirely buy anything for This Is Us. I would be way more surprised if it won drama series than if it was completely snubbed in nominations. The Crown is also really overrated by GD members and the “experts”, Westworld and Stranger Things should be in the conversation to win before the crown.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Riley
    Keymaster
    Joined:
    Oct 11th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202115889

    I am so offended by the This is Us confidence that I just took out Chrissy Metz for Elizabeth Marvel.

    Yeah I’ve given up on those chats and slugfests cuz they’re just weird. Riley, I noticed you haven’t popped up in any of those yet, will you be doing one soon?

    I imagine that I pop up toward the end of the month once this round of interviews is over. The slugfests that have been recorded so far this season have either been face-to-face in Los Angeles, among the full-time editors (plus Zach) or spearheaded by Ralph (with enough people without me).

    ReplyCopy URL
    sofan
    Participant
    Joined:
    Oct 1st, 2016
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116041

    The Experts have This is Us at #2 and the senior Editors have it at #1. Both groups have Chrissy Metz at #1 (plus Sterling K. Brown at #1 and Ron Cephas Jones at #4).

    NBC must be paying quite the money I guess.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116043

    What upsets me is that everything This Is Us is predicted for makes me mad. Like Milo Ventimiglia and Mandy Moore are the reasons people watch the show, they make it watchable and they deserve recognition. Yet they’re struggling honestly to find spots and probably won’t get recognition.

    Plus these are two actors who have honestly had incredibly struggling careers and they manage to pull these performances off, and manage to be the main draw of millions of people. That’s unheard of honestly from actors that honestly have never really been a name (except for Moore who had a blip with Walk to Remember and then nothing really after that.)

    I am cheering for it to get a drama series nod just because it frightens me that broadcast television is dying, and this show actually has a shot. But I just don’t get why everyone else is getting the buzz and the two people who are the show (in my eyes) aren’t going to get shit.

    ReplyCopy URL
    leothescorpio
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 7th, 2015
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116095

    I highly doubt that Moore and Ventimiglia are the reasons people watch this show. They do what is required of them, but I haven’t seen them do anything remotely award-worthy.

    The reason people watch this show is because it’s a tearjerker. It’s superficial and all, but it does make people feel good about themselves/their family.

    If it was up to me, the show would only get two nominations. “Memphis” for writing and Jones for Supporting Actor. The EP of the show said in some interview they let their writers and actors take centre stage.. So IMO those two nominations would be more than enough for this type of show.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Eden
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jun 7th, 2016
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116186

    In the Gold Derby videos they talk why they put a certain show in their predictions, but I’m curious why there is so much confidence that so many new shows will enter the Drama Series race.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Guest2014
    Participant
    Joined:
    Nov 15th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116310

    Eric Deggans of NPR redeems his hideous comedy actress choices by being the only one who goes out on a limb and says Bell deserves a nomination. But none of them obviously saw The Good Place and determined it’s a much better show than, say, Insecure. And what’s with the love for I Love Dick. What channel is that show on?

    ReplyCopy URL
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116320

    Eric Deggans of NPR redeems his hideous comedy actress choices by being the only one who goes out on a limb and says Bell deserves a nomination. But none of them obviously saw The Good Place and determined it’s a much better show than, say, Insecure. And what’s with the love for I Love Dick. What channel is that show on?

    Insecure is better than The Good Place.

    I Love Dick is on Amazon Prime, you should actually watch it before you trash it this time.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Pulp
    Participant
    Joined:
    Feb 13th, 2017
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116471

    The Good Place is better than Insecure, let’s be real here.

    ReplyCopy URL
    eastwest
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jun 6th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116553

    In a year w/o Game of Thrones, The Crown and This Is Us are the default drama series frontrunners. The former is the most expensive show ever that looks like a movie on an streaming service looking to have a breakthrough ear with nominations. The latter is the surprise network hit of the season.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116554

    I highly doubt that Moore and Ventimiglia are the reasons people watch this show. They do what is required of them, but I haven’t seen them do anything remotely award-worthy.

    I meant their story line. Their characters are the headlines, and without their performances there wouldn’t be such a close following.

    ReplyCopy URL
    CanadianFan
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 23rd, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116709

    That is not the issue. They are not rooting for something out of the box. They are making questionable assumptions about what is inside.

    In the Tom/Pete videos and in the Tom/Paul/Marcus/Daniel videos, they pose these questions among others:
    1. Will The Crown or This is Us win?
    2. Will Stranger Things and Westworld get nominated?

    Before taking into account statistics and precursors and all of that, I take issue with treating The Crown and This is Us as default frontrunners. It is not 1990. There is this idea that the pundits have that these two are classic Emmy bait, but classic Emmy bait does not work at the Emmys anymore. Classic Emmy bait has been stumbling in recent years. Boardwalk Empire and House of Cards never amounted to much after big names won for directing their pilots. In the drama categories, Downton Abbey only won for Maggie Smith above the line. The Good Wife was pretty much limited to acting nominations. Billions was shut out. Vinyl got only a few technical nominations. We are in an age now where the ultimate Emmy bait is apparently a serialized fantasy epic; it won twenty-four times in the last two years.

    Then there is this idea that the Emmys might not go for Stranger Things and Westworld. Look, whenever you have a new show, genre or not, there is that question. But that question expires when we get the answer. They say in the videos how the PGA and SAG wins for Stranger Things put it on the map, which is unfair. A Critics’ Choice win puts a show on the map. A Golden Globe puts a show on the map. A win from PGA or SAG is way past that point. A PGA or SAG win is actual Emmy voters telling us how they intend to vote at the Emmys, all things being equal.

    The guilds are opinion polls of voters. If a show gets nominated by like all of them and then variably wins, how is there any question whether voters will respond to that show? There has never been a drama nominated for PGA/DGA/WGA/SAG Ensemble and snubbed at the Emmys, which have historically had only five slots. Plus they got nominated by the broader below-the-line guilds like ACE and CAS (and several more), indicating widespread support. These two are as locked as can be for nominations.

    Despite all of this, people dismiss the guilds. Whatever, you do you. But Stranger Things and Westworld have also been nominated in the series categories by the Golden Globes, Critics’ Choice and the Satellite Awards. The only Best Drama Series lists that have left off Stranger Things and/or Westworld in the last year are the predictions of various pundits here.

    Beautiful.

    ReplyCopy URL
    Anonymous
    Joined:
    Jan 1st, 1970
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116715

    The Good Place is better than Insecure, let’s be real here.

    there isn’t a rap called “Broken Pussy” in the Good Place so Insecure wins by default

    ReplyCopy URL
    jf123
    Participant
    Joined:
    Feb 15th, 2014
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1202116718

    Eric Deggans of NPR redeems his hideous comedy actress choices by being the only one who goes out on a limb and says Bell deserves a nomination. But none of them obviously saw The Good Place and determined it’s a much better show than, say, Insecure. And what’s with the love for I Love Dick. What channel is that show on?

    You do understand their is a difference between predicting the nominees and saying that they deserve to be nominated right.

    And The Good Place isn’t happening like you think it is (He has it winning all four acting categories)

    Give Paul Thomas Anderson an Oscar.

    ReplyCopy URL
Viewing 14 posts - 31 through 44 (of 44 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Similar Topics
Rachel - Jul 19, 2019
Television
Chris B... - Jul 18, 2019
Television
Chris B... - Jul 18, 2019
Television