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July 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm #355180
I was puzzled at seeing Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt get snubbed for the directing and writing categories especially since the previous show written by Tina Fey & Robert Carlock 30 ROCK was nominated in those categories the first year it was nominated and every other year except 2012. Any theories as to why it didn’t happen in those categories for them this year?July 22, 2015 at 3:03 pm #355182
Over-submitting for a show that was itself untested by awards shows.
The streaming model makes the series as a whole an event rather than individual episodes, so the producers should have picked out the ones that actually merited noms.July 22, 2015 at 3:05 pm #355183
I see people are giving so much credit for Writing&Directing categories than they should have. The problem is, the voters only votes for episodes instead of voting for the entire show.(That way everything would have been easier, and we could actually know which branch really loves which show.) The number of submitted episodes makes the biggest difference here, I think. For example I’m pretty sure House of Cards or OITNB would have gotten in one of these categories but they submitted too much, while GoT submitted 3 for Directing and 1 for Writing. So if one show didn’t make it in one or two of these categories, doesn’t particularly mean it doesn’t have any support from that area.
As for Tina Fey, in the Writing ballots voters can only see the shows and submitted episodes name on it, no writer’s name, so no one can name-checks another in there unlike what they do in Directing.July 22, 2015 at 3:16 pm #355184
Because they got their token woman nominee with Jill Soloway and didn’t feel the need to add another one. Beth McCarthy-Miller and the pilot (for writing) should’ve been nominated.July 22, 2015 at 3:40 pm #355185
Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is not that strong an Emmy contender. We all felt it before the nominations came out. The talent was there, but something was not quite connecting. It did not make the top seven at Critics’ Choice and even when it did make the top five at TCA, it was snubbed for The Flash in a different category. Ralph even claims that Netflix prioritized Grace and Frankie.
Sure, it missed writing and directing, but it missed other categories too. Kimmy Schmidt herself did not get in. They missed sound mixing, despite the use of music and the category loving the similar 30 Rock, The Office and Parks and Recreation. No editing despite all of the quick cuts and the category loving 30 Rock and The Office.
Most of the nominations that it did get are fairly easy to discount. Comedy series had seven nominees and it was definitely in the lower half of the category. Supporting actress had eight nominees. Tina Fey was a blatant name check in a sparse category. Jon Hamm used to get nominated for two minutes in an episode of 30 Rock or making cameos in their live shows. That he actually has win-worthy material in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is totally coincidental to his nomination. Comedy stunt coordination? How is that even a category? It should not be surprising that the single comedy series nominee that bothered to submit got in.
The only nominations that really indicate strength are supporting actor and casting. When it faced actual competition like in writing, directing, sound, editing, lead actress, costumes, production design, title design and the music categories, it fell short.
I do not think that too many submissions was really an issue for writing and directing. Vote-splitting should not apply when a pilot is in contention.
"I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."July 22, 2015 at 4:06 pm #355186
I think UKB not getting in Directing and Writing has more to do with Netflix not being able to handle the tape system more than anything else. They didn’t get shit for House of Cards and OiTNB and we all know these are shows that are easy shoo-ins in both categories. They usually submit more episodes for consideration than they should and that is particularly harmful in both of those cases. I mean come on: two of the four acting nominations are not name-checking… They had to see and consequently support the performances in order to nominate them. Ellie Kemper missed out this year but so did Jane Fonda, Melissa McCarthy and so many others. That shows how stacked her category was.
In my opinion UKB didn’t even occupy the seventh slot. I’d say sixth. Parks & Recreation had much less support so it would still be nominated if they were just 6 nominees. It doesn’t have the same gravitas as 30 Rock but don’t tell me it doesn’t have support.July 22, 2015 at 4:13 pm #355187
the pilot isn’t that great tho.
I mean, Jack-Tor, Tracy Does Conan, and The Breakup certainly weren’t pilots for 30 Rock.July 22, 2015 at 9:00 pm #355188
Because there were better contenders. I just watched all of the Writing submissions and they were all so strong. Kimmy Schmidt is not that good yet.July 23, 2015 at 12:29 am #355189
“Kimmy’s in a Love Triangle,” which featured the “Daddy’s Boy” number (and the subplot involving Entourage), would have made for an excellent writing nomination.July 23, 2015 at 12:49 am #355190
You know what, I really liked that show and I’m looking forward for season 2 but…
With “30 Rock”, even with all the craziness of Jenna and Tracy, you always believed that it was grounded in reality enough to believe what you watch. It was similar with “UKS” but it stopped around the middle, perhaps at the time when Kimmy’s boyfriend showed up with dolphin. Since then the events on-screen were no longer plausible which culminated in the finale having every single character behaving like a cartoon and courtroom scenes not even pretending to resemble anything that would happen in real life.
Don’t get me wrong, it was still enjoyable and highly entertaining but for a show with such a grounded premise, it lost some points in the end.July 23, 2015 at 8:04 am #355191
The submission of too many episodes in Writing and Directing hurt. The packed Lead Actress in a Comedy category pushed Kemper out. I fully expect her to get in next year. If Netflix gets smart and submits one or two episodes in Writing/Directing, I think they can get a nom. The problem is that, because of the binge-model, the episodes all start to blend together and unless one REALLY stands out from the crowd, voters aren’t likely to pinpoint one specific episode. That’s what happens when episodes are watched one after the other with no time wasted in between. With Netflix shows, I sometimes forget what episode certain things happened in. It isn’t until I go back and watch that I remember certain things happen in specific episodes. I think Emmy voters could operate under that same line of thinking. Pick your strongest episode or two, force voters that like (or even love) the show to throw their support behind ONE script or ONE directing effort. You’ve already increased your odds at a nomination. It’s that simple. Now, someone go tell Netflix that so their shows start getting Writing and Directing nods that they deserve.July 23, 2015 at 8:25 am #355192
It wasn’t good enough to make it into those categories and voters liked other contenders better? Sometimes the easy answer is the correct one.July 23, 2015 at 9:46 am #355193
Oh, just like Breaking Bad just wasn’t good or liked enough for 4 years for a Writing nom, and Veep just wasn’t good or liked enough for 3 years for a Directing nom. Got it.July 23, 2015 at 10:02 am #355194
Oh, just like Breaking Bad just wasn’t good or liked enough for 4 years for a Writing nom, and Veep just wasn’t good or liked enough for 3 years for a Directing nom. Got it.
To those writing and directing branches, technically yes. Thanks for playing.
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