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  • AayaanUpadhyaya
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    There were already major problems with the article, this from the author doesn’t help much

    Banfield read from the email on her show Tuesday night, quoting Katie Way, who wrote, in part, “Ashleigh — someone I am certain nobody under the age of 45 has heard of — I hope the 500 retweets on the single news write-up made that burgundy lipstick, bad highlights, second-wave feminist has-been really relevant for a little while.”

    The article itself was bad journalism to begin with, this e-mail just shows the type of hypocritical faux feminism the writer apparently practices. Makes it that much easier to side with Aziz on this.

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    It makes me sick to my stomach seeing so many posters I like siding with Aziz here.

    Only a couple posters seem completely on Aziz’s side. But thinking someone is a douche isn’t the same as thinking their entire careers should come to and end. It sounded like a situation where he didn’t pick up on hints… until he did.

    But as I mentioned, it does open up another conversation. “Consensual” sexual experiences can be traumatizing if someone goes too far into something. It is important to pick up hints and get a good idea of what someone is actually into and comfortable with. Because there are indeed predators out here who use a “consensual” filter to indulge their rape and/or megalomaniac fantasies and instincts. But based off the details it’s impossible to tell if Aziz is one of those people.

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    Because there are indeed predators out here who use a “consensual” filter to indulge their rape and/or megalomaniac fantasies and instincts. But based off the details it’s impossible to tell if Aziz is one of those people.

    My opinion is Aziz was – at best – walking that razor thin line. I don’t think he’s as socially inept as people in the media seem to be prescribing him in his defense. I think he kept pushing because he is famous and figured she would eventually give in despite being 100% aware of how uncomfortable she was. And he simply didn’t care if she was uncomfortable because he saw her as a conquest and not a person.

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    What gets me about that argument is him initiating a text conversation with her the next day. That seems pretty oblivious.

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    And he simply didn’t care if she was uncomfortable because he saw her as a conquest and not a person.

    The thing here is also that it was “Grace” (If I remember it right)  who first approached him, gave him her number, then went to dinner with him and went to his apartment after knowing him only like for a day. I mean yes he is celebrity, she saw him on TV, but he is like a total stranger. Maybe the debate around this issue will lead to killing off this whole hookup culture, among other things. Because lbh I don’t think this culture is beneficial to women in terms of good sexual relationships.

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    The thing here is also that it was “Grace” (If I remember it right) who first approached him, gave him her number, then went to dinner with him and went to his apartment after knowing him only like for a day.

    I think it’s absurd anyone would have an issue with any of this or use it as an excuse to defend his behavior.

    What gets me about that argument is him initiating a text conversation with her the next day. That seems pretty oblivious.

    Yeah, I think there are plenty of explanations for that though.

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    I think it’s absurd anyone would have an issue with any of this

    Well, I’m probably old-fashioned, but personally I can’t understand why a person would like to jump into full blown sexual relationships on very first date, not knowing the person at all. But YMMV of course. Also I do think it may impact the whole non-verbal clue reading thing – how can you expect that another person would accurately read your non-verbal clues, if this person doesn’t know you and you don’t know him/her at all? For example even with people I know for a long time, my closest friends, my parents, my BF, they sometimes can misread something about me.

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