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  • Reis
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    Probably. What episode you think is better?
    I just remember that I love her more than usual in season 5.

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    Chris Beachum
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    bump

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    Emmyfan
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    I watched the submissions by the Game Of Throne actresses – Headey and Clarke. Emilia does nothing in her episode and does not deserve to be anywhere near the Emmy Award on September 20. Her scenes are more of a triumph of writing and not acting.

    Headey does a lot more in her scene, but there is a lot to get through before you get to her scene. I would vote for Headey over Clarke.

    It is a shane that Maggie Smith who was great in season 5 of Dowtown Abbey was not nominated. Also a shame that Lorraine Toussaint from Orange Is The New Black was not nominated.

    I have not seen all of season 5 of Games Of Thrones, but was this really the beat that Emilia Clarke had in terms of a submission. If so, then she did not deserve to be nominated.

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    Riley Chow
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    Uzo Aduba is my prediction because she just won SAG.  I know that she was the only individual nomination for Orange is the New Black, which was so popular that it won ensemble, but come on, there is no excuse for a three-time Emmy-winning lead performance by comedy icon Julia Louis-Dreyfus losing to an unknown who had just won guest actress at the Emmys.  It is not like Veep is some little show either.  It might even win series.  Pretty gross that she got a nomination when she did not deserve one and three others from her own show did (Lorraine Toussaint, Yael Stone, Kate Mulgrew), but Crazy Eyes is just inexplicably popular.  It has fallen, but Orange is the New Black is still a series nominee and this is only their second opportunity to recognize Crazy Eyes.  And if this were the old system, Aduba would be an even easier prediction because she has the fullest tape.

    Lena Headey is second because Orange is the New Black has subsided since last year, while Game of Thrones has risen, at least at the Emmys.  The two big moments this season were the “Hardhome” battle and the walk of penance, which was all Headey.  Well, it was all her except for everything below her head, but she still has ample buzz and whatever ground she lost with the body double revelation should have been nullified by the ground that she had gained by Cersei carrying the season (with Kit Harington), going back to the flashback at the start of the premiere and by Game of Thrones finally being primed to win the big Emmy.  The tape is solid, but her absence from the first half is a factor when she is up against someone as beloved as Aduba who actually has an arc across her whole episode.

    Christina Hendricks is the only other one in contention because of the possibility of a Mad Men sweep or maybe “sentiment” is a better word.  Although the show itself and Matthew Weiner have been amply awarded, I do get the sense that there is a feeling that Hendricks has been robbed along with Jon Hamm, more so than other perennial nominees like Elisabeth Moss and Robert Morse.  Look no further than Jon Cryer’s Twitter.  Her submission is passable, but this is the show that never produces winning tapes, so it is only that good.

    Christine Baranski is going to get seven consecutive Emmy nominations for The Good Wife.  That is insane.  Her tapes are consistently lame.  I guess that last year’s was okay, due to the inherent bait of reacting to a death, but what has she ever brought to this category?  Not a winning tape like Carrie Coon could have, that is for sure.

    Joanne Froggatt is back as she continues her ridiculous and neverending murder-trial-prison-rape-murder-prison storyline.  Miraculously, she was only the third most-deserving from her show on the supporting actress ballot this year, after Laura Carmichael and Maggie Smith.

    Emilia Clarke is last because in no scenario is she the most likely nominee from her own show, so she is second at best.  As I said, this was the season of Cersei and two consecutive nominations trumps two non-consecutive one in terms of measuring basic popularity.  Headey has momentum; Clarke is just back in because Game of Thrones is more popular than it was last year at the Emmys.  Her tape sucks too and yes, it was the best that she had and the best that she has had in years actually.

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    I pretty much agree everything demonhog said except for two things.
    Veep is really a too little-watched show for an organization as big as SAG . I mean the average viewers for that show is 0.9 million.  Only SAG consists of 165.000 voters. Do the math yourself. And unlike other critical-darling premium shows, this one really doesn’t have passionate fan base behind them. I believe particularly older voters enjoy the show, but keep in mind that majority of SAG is young or young-adult actors.
    I believe JLD won that SAG last year because she is JLD, and can continue to win so, when there isn’t a better alternative against to her, her portrayal of (Vice) President Selina is becoming a hit, too. But as long as Aduba or any other Orange lady in the play, I can’t see her winning for this role in the near future in the SAG.
    The second, Aduba would not have been a lock under the old system.
    For drama categories, voters tend to go for dramatic events which can easily be associated with real time issues such as kidnapping, rape, law course, murder instead of that kinda over the top and hard to believe performances, no matter how showy it is. 
    Overacting and campiness usually has been awarded in the Comedy genre as we all know. I really don’t understand the hype of that episode. She has like, one decent scene, which she hits her face over and over. And that’s it. She doesn’t even play the half of Suzanne’s scenes in that episode. Yes, you get to know the character throught the episode but you can’t even compare that to the something as brutal as walk of shame. 

    Now, let’s cut to the business. I’m predicting Hendricks at the Emmys right now, but I may switch it to Aduba if Pablo Schreiber wins Guest Actor at the Creative Arts ceremony. If speechs matters so much in the Oscar race, why her emotional speech at SAG shouldn’t help her as well for the Emmy race?

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    SupaDupa Fly
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    Some of these episodes suck. I’m sure
    Christine Baranski had a better choice than this episode. Ugh! I’m so over her.
    Why did Emelia Clarke submit a Dance With Dragons? She did nothing. I can’t stop laughing after watching that episode.

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    *sigh* Yael Stone and Lorraine Toussaibt could’ve easily won in this category with their episodes. Shaking. My. Head.

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    Anthony 🐜
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    Watch Joanne Froggatt pull off an Archie Panjabi and win this thing for the British circle.

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    I still feel like Clarke was better in Hardhome, personally, but they probably chose Dance of Dragons because it’s a bigger “moment”. It’s kind of moot, though, because it wouldn’t boost her chances either way.

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    I just watched Uzo Aduba’s submission from Orange Is The New Black – Hugs Can Be Deceiving.

    I found myself not only drawn to Uzo, but I found myself drawn to Lorraine Toussaint’s character.  I am sure the voters that watch this epiosde are saying” Gee- Lorraine Touissant is really good and asking themselves why wasn’t she nominated?”  Lorraine had more screentime in this episode than Uzo.

    There were a total of four flashback scenes with only one including Uzo.  The breakdown at the graduation was a devastating scene but brief.  I feel that the scenes with the game and after the graduation were done well, but Lorraine Touissant was just as captivating in her scenes.  I feel that Uzo could win with the episode and the popularity factor.  However, it is terrible that Lorraine did not get nominated as well.  This show is definitely a drama.

    For some reason, I can see Macy Gray playing the part of Crazy Eyes. 

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    Carlo
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    Same thoughts.

    Lorraine Toussaint snub is simply unforgivable, and it shows one more time how voters don’t watch the shows they nominate.
    Nothing against Uzo Abudo but the buzz and awards recognition she received in these years really make no sense.
    Not only Lorraine Toussaint killed in season 2, but every OITNB regular watcher knows that Danielle Brooks, Samira Wiley, Yael Stone, Kate Mulgrew, Natasha Lyonne, Tarying Manning and on and on would have been equally deserving (or, in some cases, more) of Aduba’s acclaim.

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    For Season One, Kate Mulgrew did do well with acclaim. She was Emmy nominated, and won a couple of other awards too.

    Natasha Lyonne was Emmy nominated too, so it’s not just Aduba who gets the acclaim.

    Most of the actresses you list Carlo only come into fruition in Season Three. Yael Stone was a victim of the new guest category rules. She had one stellar episode, but that was it. Not enough for her to get in at all in Supporting Actress given how tight the competition is. Also, I really don’t think Samira Wiley is on par with the others across any season.

    I liked Toussaint in the show, but she never figured in for me as Best Supporting Actress. Not just a case of they don’t watch the show. Possibly more a case of they don’t love her as much as people on here.

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    While I do not think she is going to win, I would not completely count out Christine Baranski.  With this new voting system in place, I think she still has a chance to possibly win.  We have no idea if voters are voting for submissions (or even watching them which I highly doubt most of them are) or just voting for the most popular/well-known name in these categories.  Let alone in a supporting category that may not be the most highly anticipated category of the night, we have no idea how many voters are even going to bother voting for this award.

    I have no idea what to make out of Christine Baranski.  Not only is she a six time nominee for The Good Wife, she is the only cast member to be nominated every season.  Although despite all of that she has yet to win.  I cannot tell if her constant nominations are a sign of how truly respected and admired she is by her peers, or simply an example of name-checking.  I am also miffed as to the fact she has yet to win.  My best guest is that despite her constant nominations, she has never really had a stand out tape to help her win (even though that should not have prevented her from winning as this category had had several winners with poor tapes during her nomination span).  As someone mentioned above, there is a very good chance she will be nominated again next year.  And unless she wins this year, I get the feeling she will be a perennial also ran, and never win an Emmy for The Good Wife.  Which is kind of a shame.

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    Emmys2011
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    I don´t care what anyone says at this point, but Baranski deserves to win by far. Its simply ridiculous she might never win for this role. I mean, there is a reason she has out-nominated everyone else, including the lead.

    The claim is that she never has a good enough tape, and that has been the case sometimes, but just because her performance is subdued doesn´t mean she isn´t as powerfull as Heady crying naked or Aduba being crazy. Her performance is just as, or imo, more nuanced than everyone else in this category.

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