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    Business Insider with the 14 WORST shows: http://www.businessinsider.com/worst-new-tv-shows-of-2017-ranked-2017-12

    14. Powerless
    13. The Good Doctor
    12. Will
    11. Dynasty
    10. Gypsy
    9. The Orville
    8. Disjointed
    7. Girlboss
    6. 9JKL
    5. Wisdom of the Crowd
    4. Dirty Dancing
    3. Marvel’s Iron Fist
    2. Marvel’s Inhumans
    1. Friends from College

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    The Good Doctor, really?

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    My top ten:

    1. Bojack Horseman
    2. The Leftovers
    3. The Handmaid’s Tale
    4. You’re The Worst
    5. Mindhunters
    6. Big Mouth
    7. The Deuce
    8. Glow
    9. Master of None
    10. The Americans

    Shows I haven’t watched: Twin Peaks, Legion, Better Things, The Good Place, and Better Call Saul.

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    What is generally the better year-end television critics list aggregator — Metacritic or Uproxx? A different source?

    The Uproxx list is undoubtedly superior. It just sounds stupid because it is on “Uproxx”. Metacritic has a really weird methodology that is partially the result of making the most of what they have to work with, i.e. top-ten lists that are not ordered because critics are too chicken to order their lists because they think that it actually matters. This means that a first-place ranking is variably weighted equal to a tenth-place ranking there. The senior television editor at Uproxx was formerly current TCA president Dan Fienberg, so they were able to coordinate things over there (and Alan Sepinwall remains). They reach out to all of the TCA and demand ordered lists, so Uproxx ends up publishing ordered lists from people whose lists are not ordered on Metacritic. A first-place ranking gets ten points, a tenth-place ranking gets one and so on; it is exactly as it should be. Their list is also more comprehensive because not all critics write up (their own) top-ten features.

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    @riley, can you give me the link of this year Upproxx’s list aggregator? I can’t find it. Thank you!

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    My top 10:

    1. The Leftovers
    2. Twin Peaks
    3. The Deuce – Mindhunter (Tie)
    4. Better Things
    5. Master of None – You’re the Worst (Tie)
    6. Rick and Morty
    7. Curb Your Enthusiasm
    8. The Long Road Home
    9. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    10.Stranger Things

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    We would be talking about it if this year’s were up yet.  Last year’s is at: http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/tv-critics-poll-2016-best-shows/

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    It’s up.

    http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/best-tv-shows-of-2017-ranked

    That’s Alan’s list. They were talking about the aggregate that will be up in a couple of days (according to what Alan said in his podcast released today).

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    The Atlantic (no numerical rank, broken down between new and returning shows, alphabetical): https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/the-best-tv-shows-of-2017/547376/

    New:
    Alias Grace
    American Vandal
    Big Little Lies
    Dear White People
    The Deuce
    Godless
    GLOW
    The Handmaid’s Tale
    The Keepers
    National Treasure
    Honorable mentions: Mindhunter, The Mayor, Big Mouth, I Love Dick

    Returning:
    Better Things
    BoJack Horseman
    The Crown
    Game of Thrones
    The Good Place
    Halt and Catch Fire
    Insecure
    The Leftovers
    Stranger Things
    Twin Peaks

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    TV By the Numbers: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/uncategorized/the-masked-10-plus-5-the-masked-schedulers-favorite-tv-shows-of-2017/

    1. Better Call Saul
    2. The Americans
    3. Billions
    4. Game of Thrones
    5. Master of None
    6. GLOW
    7. Mae Young Classic (WWE)
    8 (tie) Silicon Valley, The Deuce
    9. The CW’s non-superhero lineup (Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Jane the Virgin, Riverdale)
    10. ABC Wednesday (Fresh Off the Boat, The Goldbergs)

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    http://uproxx.com/sepinwall/best-tv-shows-of-2017-ranked

    That’s Alan’s list. They were talking about the aggregate that will be up in a couple of days (according to what Alan said in his podcast released today).

    Gotcha. 🙂

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    The A.V. Club, and this morning just keeps getting better and better. God bless Alabama, the best drama series actress of the past 4 years returns to prime time TV tonight, and now this:

    https://www.avclub.com/the-a-v-club-s-20-best-tv-shows-of-2017-1821063892

    1. The Good Place
    2. Twin Peaks
    3. The Leftovers
    4. Legion
    5. Halt And Catch Fire
    6. Better Call Saul
    7. The Handmaid’s Tale
    8. Rick And Morty
    9. The Americans
    10. Big Little Lies

    Michael Schur’s phantasmagorical sitcom burst onto the scene in 2016 like a runaway column of shopping carts ready to carry a self-proclaimed selfish ass to her ultimate, unmerited reward, but its premise always posed a troubling question: Where can The Good Place go once it’s biggest secret is out? By the time the first-season finale aired in the early weeks of 2017, the show had answered that question several times over; it delivered its definitive retort in the form of a menacing cackle and a snap of the fingers from Michael (Ted Danson). The Good Place would, like its spiritual predecessor Lost, have to go back. And then it went back, and went back, and went back, forming a loop that doubled down on the first season’s devilishly funny head fake and crystalized The Good Place’s status as a supreme being among thoughtful TV shows that are also sort of about the process of making thoughtful TV shows.

    The Good Place deserves show-of-the-year honors for so joyously, humorously, and compassionately depicting the struggle to live morally and ethically in an ever-evolving hellscape overseen by lava monsters and their thin-skinned, petty-tyrant colleagues.

    But that’s just the Lonely Girl Margarita on the side of the never-ending shrimp cocktail that is The Good Place’s gang of dead screwups and after-life flunkies, inhabited by a once-in-a-lifetime cast that commands attention even when it’s sharing the frame with a half-dozen or so go-for-broke pudding puns. If nothing else, The Good Place deserves show-of-the-year honors for so joyously, humorously, and compassionately depicting the struggle to live morally and ethically in an ever-evolving hellscape overseen by lava monsters and their thin-skinned, petty-tyrant colleagues. It earns this distinction by doing all of that while also making good on its first-season leap of faith, mounting a production as ambitious as “Dance Dance Resolution,” challenging its writers to come up with dozens of fake restaurant names, boasting six lead performances worthy of award-season consideration, and changing the big question hanging over its head. Now that it’s biggest secret is out (and out and out and out), where can’t The Good Place go? [Erik Adams]

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    The AV Club’s individual ballots (over a dozen reporters):
    https://www.avclub.com/the-best-tv-of-2017-the-ballots-1820878494

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    E! Online (no rank, no alphabetical):
    http://www.eonline.com/news/899727/and-the-10-best-tv-shows-of-2017-are

    BIG LITTLE LIES
    THIS IS US
    INSECURE
    THE HANDMAID’S TALE
    GAME OF THRONES
    CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND
    BETTER THINGS
    THE GOOD PLACE
    STRANGER THINGS
    THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW YORK CITY

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